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Offline Spartan74

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Beast Alignment question
« on: October 20, 2013, 08:07:23 PM »
We played a team that ran two tight ends and qb at shotgun.They split three running backs outside of either tightend and ran a sweep.We been running mostly 42 cause i got some pretty good size kids.The question I have is should i shift my stackers and defensive tackles over?My dog backer was fighting off 3 blocks because the qb just grabbed it and ran right or left.We stopped them just had a few missed tackles.We got an INT,recovered a fumble,and stripped the ball.

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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 07:23:56 AM »
We played a team that ran two tight ends and qb at shotgun.They split three running backs outside of either tightend and ran a sweep.We been running mostly 42 cause i got some pretty good size kids.The question I have is should i shift my stackers and defensive tackles over?My dog backer was fighting off 3 blocks because the qb just grabbed it and ran right or left.We stopped them just had a few missed tackles.We got an INT,recovered a fumble,and stripped the ball.

We ran into that and we ran a monster.  Put one of the NT heads up and have him 2 gap.  Then pull the other and put him right in the middle of the  beast and have him blow it up.  His whole job should be to cause all 3 of those guys to have to block him.  Then everyone else just play football.

Either that or if you stopped it and were successful, don't change anything!
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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 11:28:47 AM »
Monster or Grim ... as Trip explained above !!!
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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 05:17:04 PM »
I watched the tape last night and they had 8 players on the line of scrimmage,2 running backs outside, and the qb in shotgun.I have a kid who plays nose that plays nose and can move pretty good.So i should a nose over the two running backs and the other two gap?

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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 10:17:20 PM »
I would run the monster the same as I did vs the other team.   Keep your best Noseguard at Noseguard.  Put the other guy in the center of the beast formation and just have him crush in there.  Everyone else play football!


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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2014, 08:05:58 AM »
I wanted to bring this thread back to life because our other pee-wee team ram something similar to this when we scrimmaged them However, they had the two backs just split out a bit more...more like a nasty split/tight slot and the outside guy just  a step or two outside. They also had a wing from the other side go in motion, and that created yet another blocker.

Would you defend the same way? Just slide the Reaper over if the far wing motions over?

What if the TE was a nasty split...then the two backs were split outside him as described originally.

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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2014, 08:16:44 AM »
Also, I don't believe they had the extra TE to start, but I'll know for sure tonight, since we scrimmage again. I think it was more like :

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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2014, 10:44:10 AM »
Also, I don't believe they had the extra TE to start, but I'll know for sure tonight, since we scrimmage again. I think it was more like :

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First, shift right, since they are unbalanced in that formation.  Depending on that nasty split, you might roll the OS up into that nasty split and have him try to shoot that big gap hard on the snap.  He might be able to beat whatever block gets thrown at him and blow up the play right there.  If the TE is able to block him, you still have CB, R and Dog in play.

I would think twice about GRIM on this unless it was 3rd/4th and long - I don't like GRIM with a QB under center (except for long yardage downs) since it leaves sneak or a quick dive a bit more open than with shotgun.

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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2014, 11:05:44 AM »
Well, I definitely plan to shift, but I was thinking more of the monster look, with the MS in that same nasty split, like was mentioned in earlier posts,,,with the Dog outside shoulder of the tight slot and the corner outside shade of the outside receiver. I'm thinking we could bracket that split with the OS and the monster.

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Re: Beast Alignment question
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2014, 11:11:24 AM »
I'm looking at Monster the same way I look at GRIM, in fact I use GRIM similarly to Monster when I have my R roll up on speed motion with shotgun perimeter based teams.


In this case, I'm not sure you really need it, as I don't see this formation as presenting anything unusual.

But it depends on what they run out of it.  If they aren't running in the middle and they're getting the ball out of the box fast, then having an extra guy on the perimeter isn't a bad thing.