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Defending Lobster
« on: October 17, 2014, 09:48:59 AM »
We are playing a team who use multiple formations this week...one of the odd ones is Lobster

X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

F will go in motion, and sometimes they will hand it...but mostly they try and throw it to H or Y. QB is 5 yards deep.

I came up with 2 ways to defend it...because they are 7, I don't think the QB can "grip it and rip it" to H or Y...so we are going to press the "claws" with the CB...on the line and fly through the gap between the receiver and the tackle and take the receiver away. NT and MS are playing taps DT and OS are on the LOS and flying at the QB. Dog opposite of F has a little width in case they hand it to F, Dog on F's side is tight and flying in to the QB. Reaper is going to read the play direction and fly to the F or whichever "claw" they throw to...

Like I said, I don't think the QB can get it out before our 8 get to him, especially with only 3 blocking...but...if they do, we have a "Sandy Claws" call....

                              R
  CB                       M                      CB
  OS       D        T    N   T D              OS
X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

Essentially, the OS are moved out over the Claws, and fly through the front of the "claws" and the CB goes outside of the "1" and takes away H or Y. So now we are sending 6 instead of 8.

Thoughts?
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Re: Defending Lobster
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 01:17:27 PM »
We are playing a team who use multiple formations this week...one of the odd ones is Lobster

X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

F will go in motion, and sometimes they will hand it...but mostly they try and throw it to H or Y. QB is 5 yards deep.

I came up with 2 ways to defend it...because they are 7, I don't think the QB can "grip it and rip it" to H or Y...so we are going to press the "claws" with the CB...on the line and fly through the gap between the receiver and the tackle and take the receiver away. NT and MS are playing taps DT and OS are on the LOS and flying at the QB. Dog opposite of F has a little width in case they hand it to F, Dog on F's side is tight and flying in to the QB. Reaper is going to read the play direction and fly to the F or whichever "claw" they throw to...

Like I said, I don't think the QB can get it out before our 8 get to him, especially with only 3 blocking...but...if they do, we have a "Sandy Claws" call....

                              R
  CB                       M                      CB
  OS       D        T    N   T D              OS
X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

Essentially, the OS are moved out over the Claws, and fly through the front of the "claws" and the CB goes outside of the "1" and takes away H or Y. So now we are sending 6 instead of 8.

Thoughts?

I would bring M up to apply more pressure and bring both T's off the edge

                             R
  CB                                               CB
  OS       D        T  M N  T     D         OS
X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

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Re: Defending Lobster
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 01:56:12 PM »
We would play this in our BASE DEFENSE ...

C                            R                         C
       O                    M                   O
       T       D           N          D       T           
---------------------------------------------------
X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

Read the rules ...
N - on the #4 guy from sideline ...
T - 2 helmets from the N
O - stacked on T
M - stacked on N
C - 10 yards off #1 (he can read the entire bunch from here)
R - 8 yards in middle
D - 3-4 yards wide of the last guy (in this case the Guards)

My money says they dont gain a yard and retire this formation after a few attempts ... you outnumber them EVERYWHERE
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Re: Defending Lobster
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 02:13:36 PM »
We would play this in our BASE DEFENSE ...

C                            R                         C
       O                    M                   O
       T       D           N          D       T           
---------------------------------------------------
X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q

Read the rules ...
N - on the #4 guy from sideline ...
T - 2 helmets from the N
O - stacked on T
M - stacked on N
C - 10 yards off #1 (he can read the entire bunch from here)
R - 8 yards in middle
D - 3-4 yards wide of the last guy (in this case the Guards)

My money says they dont gain a yard and retire this formation after a few attempts ... you outnumber them EVERYWHERE

Hmmm...never even thought of staying in "Base"...my only concern at that point would be the hand off to F...now we are not talking X's and O's, we are talking jimmies and joes...F is kind of a magician in space...and by putting so many on the edge, we are giving him space inside...
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Re: Defending Lobster
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 02:16:02 PM »
unblocked DOG and REAPER ... I wouldnt be too worried ... OS backer should see handoff and come screaming in ... I might have him tap on the inside just to ensure that ... let the DT dive into the claw and eat up blockers ...
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Re: Defending Lobster
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 02:31:17 PM »
We would play this in our BASE DEFENSE ...

C                            R                         C
       O                    M                   O
       T       D           N          D       T           
---------------------------------------------------
X     T                  GCG                 T     Z
   H                            <---------F     Y
                             Q


Read the rules ...
N - on the #4 guy from sideline ...
T - 2 helmets from the N
O - stacked on T
M - stacked on N
C - 10 yards off #1 (he can read the entire bunch from here)
R - 8 yards in middle
D - 3-4 yards wide of the last guy (in this case the Guards)

My money says they dont gain a yard and retire this formation after a few attempts ... you outnumber them EVERYWHERE
I wouldn't of thought of that, looks like they wouldn't have time to get a pass off and solid run support.
 

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Re: Defending Lobster
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2014, 04:31:37 PM »
I wouldn't of thought of that, looks like they wouldn't have time to get a pass off and solid run support.

When I tell guys that BASE handles everything ... I mean it ... our alignment rules have stood the test of time and sacrificed 10,000 trees worth of paper and napkins doodling formations to beat it ...

Now when they move 3 backs outside like your other post ... AND they can complete passes to those guys ... we might make an alignment adjustment ... otherwise most other adjustments we make are based on getting an even better advantage as opposed to being a necessity ...
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