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Stack Attack with a Twist
« on: April 17, 2017, 07:39:31 PM »
We took a page out of JJ's Book last week vrs a team that had a Behemoth O-line.

We run a ton of 30 front so decided to occupy their bigs with full taps and force them to run around the mess all game. Worked wonderfully.

Sometimes we invert the coverage sometimes we dont. Our Spurs always play at depth when in full taps so a few changes here and there.

Hadn't done this in years. Very effective vs an O-line that was huge and highly confused. It looks as if they just pass blocked everything.

https://youtu.be/0D4l3PUiQ6g
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 08:09:45 PM »
We took a page out of JJ's Book last week vrs a team that had a Behemoth O-line.

We run a ton of 30 front so decided to occupy their bigs with full taps and force them to run around the mess all game. Worked wonderfully.

Sometimes we invert the coverage sometimes we dont. Our Spurs always play at depth when in full taps so a few changes here and there.

Hadn't done this in years. Very effective vs an O-line that was huge and highly confused. It looks as if they just pass blocked everything.

https://youtu.be/0D4l3PUiQ6g
Movement on D in the youth game? is  a must. Blocking schemes really below the varsity for the most part blow and blow hard.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 09:09:14 PM »
Movement on D in the youth game? is  a must. Blocking schemes really below the varsity for the most part blow and blow hard.

You'd be amazed how many varsity schemes suck, too...

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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 09:50:12 PM »
Movement on D in the youth game? is  a must. Blocking schemes really below the varsity for the most part blow and blow hard.

This opponent could have just ragdoll'd us they were so big.

I agree...sameness is death.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 01:15:18 PM »
You'd be amazed how many varsity schemes suck, too...
blocking schemes really most of the time do not deal with movement at all.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 02:53:30 PM »
blocking schemes really most of the time do not deal with movement at all.

This is why I'm a big proponent of pure track blocking and dislike count systems and acronyms.

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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 06:07:06 PM »
This is why I'm a big proponent of pure track blocking and dislike count systems and acronyms.
count system allow you to acct for everybody.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 10:46:00 AM »
count system allow you to acct for everybody.

It will account for everyone pre-snap.

Post-snap, count runs into issues with movement unless you add other layers of rules in there.

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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2017, 02:20:45 PM »
It will account for everyone pre-snap.

Post-snap, count runs into issues with movement unless you add other layers of rules in there.
I agree. understand though that accounting, does not mean blocking.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 12:54:31 PM »
We took a page out of JJ's Book last week vrs a team that had a Behemoth O-line.

...

Very effective vs an O-line that was huge and highly confused. It looks as if they just pass blocked everything.

https://youtu.be/0D4l3PUiQ6g

That 'pass blocking' is what it looks like when everyone on the O-line is looking for someone to block ... whether they are using some system they learned to find the 'right guy' or just winging it and trying to 'block somebody' ... either way they end up on their heels and moving in the wrong direction ... that is what I love about this defense ... it forces teams to do this whether they want to or not ...

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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2017, 02:50:32 PM »
We never had any problems against this defense

Simple- no linemen chase, everyone steps aggressively to the inside and blocks the first man in his track
You rep it when you do your GOD fits- set up the stacks and walk through- jog through, full speed the simple options- you are blocking the Down lineman inside if he shows there or you block the linebacker inside if he shows there- its one or the other

We drill against stack stunts in the second week of practice- lots of defenses use them- including mine

Wedge works well a lot of times too

Also the LBS will try and time your snap count for their stunts- so you will need to run your no play as well.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 07:59:25 PM »
We never had any problems against this defense

Simple- no linemen chase, everyone steps aggressively to the inside and blocks the first man in his track
You rep it when you do your GOD fits- set up the stacks and walk through- jog through, full speed the simple options- you are blocking the Down lineman inside if he shows there or you block the linebacker inside if he shows there- its one or the other

We drill against stack stunts in the second week of practice- lots of defenses use them- including mine

Wedge works well a lot of times too

Also the LBS will try and time your snap count for their stunts- so you will need to run your no play as well.


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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2017, 08:00:05 PM »
That 'pass blocking' is what it looks like when everyone on the O-line is looking for someone to block ... whether they are using some system they learned to find the 'right guy' or just winging it and trying to 'block somebody' ... either way they end up on their heels and moving in the wrong direction ... that is what I love about this defense ... it forces teams to do this whether they want to or not ...

They were highly confused.
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2017, 08:05:48 PM »

...and you have to stop pulling.
Of course
With 8 defenders on the los there is no reason to pull on most plays
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Re: Stack Attack with a Twist
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2017, 04:02:31 PM »
They were highly confused.

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