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Offline Jags10

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Strange formations
« on: October 20, 2015, 09:08:13 AM »
Coaches, this week we are in the 1st round of playoffs, and we face a team who runs a few very odd formations. Before I get to that, I just want to ask how you all treat a gaurd, tackle, and wing look, especially if there is a TE on the other side. Do you treat the wing as if he were another TE and align accordingly? this team will run there about half the time in that look, the other half towards the TE side.

This is where they get a bit weird:
                                                                                               QB
                                                                             OOO
                                                                                  O  O O O  C O O
They either flood the zone...inside wing, short out, middle guy, 5-8 yard out, and outside guy, deep flag. Another time, both outside guys, ran inside patterns, and the inside guy ran a wheel. The run seemed limited to the QB running behind those 3 wings/ tight slots.

They also will reverse the 3 wings/slots to the other side , with just the gaurd and tackle. Monster and/or grim came to mind, depending on the situation, but I just wanted opinions on the alignment of the stacks. It's unbalanced on one side, but kind of unbalance the other way too. Also, I realize that we should have mega pressure, with no back to block, but the QB does roll in the direction of all those receivers, away from our dog blitzing the back side.

thanks coaches.

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Re: Strange formations
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2015, 09:47:05 AM »
A wing is a wing, we do not treat him as an Olineman. If the line is balanced and we are aligned in base, the OS stacker would walk up to the LOS with C gap responsibility.

This formation is what we call Beast with an OVER tag

We would shift to the Unbalanced line and stay in our base (both coverage and pressure). I personally would AutoBiltz the back side DOG (watching for the reverse). I would also shift the REAPER over as well. Have the backside CB make his read on the backside TE (the EMLOS is eligible) and if he gets a run read, cap the play.

When they align the backfield overload to the short side of the line what do they do? I think if they moved the backfield overload to the short side of the line, I would probably shift to the backfield overload (depending upon what they do out of that look).
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Re: Strange formations
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2015, 11:56:55 AM »
Thanks. I had the same thought thus far...shifting to the unbalanced and the 3 backfield look. that one is kind of obvious. the only thing I was considering was sticking a monster in that mess, since they also run behind it, didn't seem to run the middle, and it gives us an extra coverage guy . In trips, we are usually 1/4, 1/4 half. the monster would give us an extra cover guy underneath.

When they shifted all those backfield guys to the short side, I only saw them run, bootleg if I recall it correctly. I only saw them align that way a couple of times.

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Re: Strange formations
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 10:57:21 AM »
Sorry so late on this ... I have been having some medical issues ...

Anyway, I dont like to call it SHIFT when we move to the unbalanced side of a 7 man front ... that is our alignment rules ... the rule for the NT says line up on #4 ... that is the strong side Guard in this formation ... and our front six guys are going to be in perfect position to fill the 6 gaps if they do this ...

As for the 3 backs all lining up together ... we will almost always blitz the strong side DOG through the outside shoulder of the widest wing ... if he is heading out for a pass the Corner should be sufficient to make the play ... combined with the weak side DOG blitzing we should get crazy pressure on the QB ...

We will also move the REAPER over to the side where they line up the 3 backs ...

We do the same thing if they line up on the strong or weak side ...
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