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Offline dan82564

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Twins / Trips
« on: October 17, 2014, 11:26:12 AM »
How would you defend a team that runs most of there plays out of twins / trips? They live off of the Sweep, reverse, and fake reverse.
Last time we played them (not running 33 Def) we held them to no gain or big loss about 70% of the time, the others were big gains for 1rst down or TD...

Here is a few of there formations


    O                                     Q
O     O             
                                 O O O C O O O      Pass QB Sweep and Reverse     


                                           Q
O     O                                 
    O                              O O C O O O                O      Reverse Dbl Reverse and fake reverse
                       

                                          Q
O    O                   O
   O                             O O C O O O            Pass and QB sweep

Very fast team, we need to contain them to have a chance of beating them

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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 02:23:54 PM »
How would you defend a team that runs most of there plays out of twins / trips? They live off of the Sweep, reverse, and fake reverse.
Last time we played them (not running 33 Def) we held them to no gain or big loss about 70% of the time, the others were big gains for 1rst down or TD...

Here is a few of there formations


    O                                     Q
O     O             
                                 O O O C O O O      Pass QB Sweep and Reverse     


                                           Q
O     O                                 
    O                              O O C O O O                O      Reverse Dbl Reverse and fake reverse
                       

                                          Q
O    O                   O
   O                             O O C O O O            Pass and QB sweep

Very fast team, we need to contain them to have a chance of beating them


I dont see anything here that would make me do much except use BASE ... the DOG between the Q and the trips is going to force all kinds of problems ... if they never run inside I might go GRIM just to make the REAPER job 1/2 the distance ...
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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 02:38:21 PM »
So this would be alignment against  this??
Or would you bring a OLB over to help C on trips side

                                          Q
O    O                   O
   O                             O O C O O O   
                   D              T     N     T           D
                                   B     M     B                C

C                                       R

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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 04:28:26 PM »
                                          Q
O    O                   O
   O                             O O C O O O   
                   D          B T     N     T           D
                                          M     B

C                           R                       C   


Corner on both sides line up 10 yards deep from #1 ...
Reaper shades to the overloaded side so he can get there quicker ...
B (left) has noone on the los outside of him so he autoblitzes ...

Just so I can be more accurate ... are you using my version of the 33 ??

If they start chucking it out there to the trips a lot we might pull the M and go Grim or Monster or just move him over to a spot head up on the trips to attack the blockers ...
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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 04:49:46 PM »
I went into and out of your stack during the season, I had my right C lined up wrong. I didnt run the 33 against this "o" but it looks like we would be heavily out matched on bunch side. They were a heavy sweep and reverse team.

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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 04:55:08 PM »
You are only outmatched if they throw bubble ... and depending on the age you might actually arrive with plenty of defenders by the time they catch the ball ... bubble is an easy read so we react quickly ...

But if they run SWEEP to that side they have to run past an unblocked DOG ... unless they hit him in the back ... or they motion (of course that means we are no longer outnumbered the same) ...
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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2014, 05:16:16 PM »
Wouldn't the wing  slow down the dog
                       _____
                   /                \_
              /                        \Q
O    O                  / W
   O                 /          O O C O O O   
                   D          B T     N     T           D
                                          M     B

C                           R                       C   


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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2014, 12:10:35 PM »
Wouldn't the wing  slow down the dog
                       _____
                   /                \_
              /                        \Q
O    O                  / W
   O                 /          O O C O O O   
                   D          B T     N     T           D
                                          M     B

C                           R                       C

The wing has to choose dog or backer. One of them is getting in right ?

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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2014, 01:03:32 PM »
The wing has to choose dog or backer. One of them is getting in right ?

This. Plus slowing down the dog and making the QB takes path that deep usually isn't a bad thing. I like my chances of my pursuit getting there and making a play if that happens. Especially as the game goes on, the Stack will make plays when that happens.
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Re: Twins / Trips
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2014, 11:10:44 AM »
YEAH ... what they said ...
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