Author Topic: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book  (Read 7987 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wing-n-It

  • Gold
  • Posts: 4375
  • Total likes: 367
  • Coaching: 8 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: DC Wing T
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 06:37:11 PM »
Once I get it completed I will send you, Robert, and Shad the manuscript to review.  I want it to be a really good source document for us to all work off of.


Jack
Anything you need Jack

Robert

2 Things my offense will always have is a Wing and a Wedge

Offline mark67

  • Copper
  • Posts: 19
  • Total likes: 0
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Multiple
  • Title: Other
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2013, 01:34:46 PM »
Hi Coach,

Here are some additional calls we used for our stacks that our kids liked.  See attached.

Offline coachgregory

  • Moderator
  • Gold
  • Posts: 3052
  • Total likes: 189
  • Coaching: 14 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Other
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2013, 01:46:30 PM »
Hi Coach,

Here are some additional calls we used for our stacks that our kids liked.  See attached.


Mark,

That is pretty cool set of calls.  I might pick your brain a little on those.

Jack
Exsisto Fortis, Exsisto Validus

Offline Dusty Ol Fart

  • Platinum
  • Posts: 7063
  • Total likes: 637
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2013, 01:54:43 PM »
Neat calls!! 

Pick, Pick, Pick!!    :D
Not MPP... ONE TASK!  Teach them!  :)

Offline searider86

  • Bronze
  • Posts: 610
  • Total likes: 1
  • I wasn't hired for my disposition.
  • Coaching: 14 & Under
  • Defense: Undecided
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2013, 02:08:18 PM »
Mark

Could there be a Toro call on both stacks such that now the 2 DG's are double teaming the center?
"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority."

Vince Lombardi

Offline mark67

  • Copper
  • Posts: 19
  • Total likes: 0
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Multiple
  • Title: Other
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2013, 02:32:05 PM »
Jack:

Pick away.  I would typically use the Toro call on the weak side (i.e. GAP OUT/IN ON THE STRONG SIDE AND TORO OUT/IN ON THE WEAK SIDE). Similar to the way some people line up the DTs and DEs in a 4-3 defense (i.e. DT plays a shade over the center).

My though process on this was that I wanted to pound their center with the 6-3 front, rather than switch to a 50 front.  Worked well.


Searider86, you could do it.    Although, I have to say I don't think I called it last season.  Probably called Toro Out to the Weak side and Gap Out to the strong side alot due to the tendencies we saw.  Maybe a Toro IN/OUT with a GAP IN.  I'd rather put my linemen right in the holes the offense likes to run with LB support over top.  We didn't have many teams wanting to run A and B on us because our DGs were animals (in particular the kid who played the Toro, which btw, he ALWAYS wanted to be in TORO).

Offline coachgregory

  • Moderator
  • Gold
  • Posts: 3052
  • Total likes: 189
  • Coaching: 14 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Other
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2013, 06:32:54 PM »
Jack:

Pick away.  I would typically use the Toro call on the weak side (i.e. GAP OUT/IN ON THE STRONG SIDE AND TORO OUT/IN ON THE WEAK SIDE). Similar to the way some people line up the DTs and DEs in a 4-3 defense (i.e. DT plays a shade over the center).

My though process on this was that I wanted to pound their center with the 6-3 front, rather than switch to a 50 front.  Worked well.


Searider86, you could do it.    Although, I have to say I don't think I called it last season.  Probably called Toro Out to the Weak side and Gap Out to the strong side alot due to the tendencies we saw.  Maybe a Toro IN/OUT with a GAP IN.  I'd rather put my linemen right in the holes the offense likes to run with LB support over top.  We didn't have many teams wanting to run A and B on us because our DGs were animals (in particular the kid who played the Toro, which btw, he ALWAYS wanted to be in TORO).

Mark,

I love the premise...it is very simple and it fits easily in the context of the basic structure...  So if you don't mind I am going to add this in and give you the full credit when I update the manual.


Here is a few questions I have:

On TORO are you tell the OLB to move to outside shade of the DT instead of the normal 40 alignment (stacked) on this call?  I know I tell my OLB if he fells he can be beaten outside to go into a outside shade 40 of the DT (inside foot to outside heel of the DT).

I like TITAN...is a WB the only time you use it?  I think you could go RED TITAN as well and it would be a nice way to bracket a TE releasing so that the MIKE and OLB can play him.

Jack
Exsisto Fortis, Exsisto Validus

Offline mark67

  • Copper
  • Posts: 19
  • Total likes: 0
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Multiple
  • Title: Other
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2013, 08:24:50 AM »
Mark,

I love the premise...it is very simple and it fits easily in the context of the basic structure...  So if you don't mind I am going to add this in and give you the full credit when I update the manual.


Here is a few questions I have:

On TORO are you tell the OLB to move to outside shade of the DT instead of the normal 40 alignment (stacked) on this call?  I know I tell my OLB if he fells he can be beaten outside to go into a outside shade 40 of the DT (inside foot to outside heel of the DT).

I like TITAN...is a WB the only time you use it?  I think you could go RED TITAN as well and it would be a nice way to bracket a TE releasing so that the MIKE and OLB can play him.

Jack

Thanks Coach. Awesome!

In the beginning, we always had our OLBs stack the DT for every call.  As the season progressed though, I lined them up more outside shade of the OT (not just TORO, basically every call).  The PDF I sent you was directly from our last qtr of the season playbook, so that's why they were outside shade of the OT.  I liked having them outside shade because the teams we faced kept wanting to run off-tackle and sweeps.  It also kinda forced the offside linebacker to slow play on the cutbacks and counters, which was another play we faced all season long.

I only used TITAN with a WB, but I love the idea of using it on RED.  I have to say, we didn't have much trouble facing a tough TE this season.  So you have some back ground on how it developed, TITAN originated from having a STACK DOUBLE GAP IN CALL against a power I team.  On the play, they would shift or motion the H-back to wing back and run power into the off-tackle hole, so we came up with TITAN as the adjustment.

Offline coachgregory

  • Moderator
  • Gold
  • Posts: 3052
  • Total likes: 189
  • Coaching: 14 & Under
  • Defense: 6-3
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Other
Re: Calls in the 2nd Edition of the 63 Book
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2013, 02:01:59 PM »
Thanks Coach. Awesome!

In the beginning, we always had our OLBs stack the DT for every call.  As the season progressed though, I lined them up more outside shade of the OT (not just TORO, basically every call).  The PDF I sent you was directly from our last qtr of the season playbook, so that's why they were outside shade of the OT.  I liked having them outside shade because the teams we faced kept wanting to run off-tackle and sweeps.  It also kinda forced the offside linebacker to slow play on the cutbacks and counters, which was another play we faced all season long.

I only used TITAN with a WB, but I love the idea of using it on RED.  I have to say, we didn't have much trouble facing a tough TE this season.  So you have some back ground on how it developed, TITAN originated from having a STACK DOUBLE GAP IN CALL against a power I team.  On the play, they would shift or motion the H-back to wing back and run power into the off-tackle hole, so we came up with TITAN as the adjustment.

Mark,

That makes sense with the OLBs.  I had a really fast OLB a few years ago and even with the outside read step he would still over play to the flow and not sit on BCR and check it so we always had him align outside shade of our DT and that helped.  So I can see why you would do that.

The TORO call is a brilliant call.

I really like the TITAN call and I plan on playing around with it in RED and in STACK. 

Jack
Exsisto Fortis, Exsisto Validus