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Offline Jtatham

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Defending against "Crunch" formation
« on: August 07, 2016, 01:29:12 AM »
How would you defend this formation?


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The DE should not be blocked by the outermost man, in this case the wingback. But he should also be aiming for the nearest/deepest back which would also be the wingback. I know the manual shows the defense vs the Beast formation which is the same thing except direct snap vs under center. It really just says the defense is outnumbered, but I know the philosophy of the defense is prove to me I need to make adjustments.

"Bear" to have D line submarine the formation and cause a pileup at the POA? Shift call? Nick or mouse to put an additional blitzer on the strong side?
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Re: Defending against "Crunch" formation
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2016, 07:26:18 AM »
I run a LOAD call against this - not sure what Jack calls it. I move my weak side LB to over center, strong side LB to SPREAD and my weak side CB moves just inside weak side DE. Mike also shifts one step towards strong side.

I sometimes run SHIFT as well, but found that I am then too unbalanced. We did pretty well against this and Beast.

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Re: Defending against "Crunch" formation
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2016, 08:51:40 PM »
I run a LOAD call against this - not sure what Jack calls it. I move my weak side LB to over center, strong side LB to SPREAD and my weak side CB moves just inside weak side DE. Mike also shifts one step towards strong side.

I sometimes run SHIFT as well, but found that I am then too unbalanced. We did pretty well against this and Beast.

OK thanks. I can't find any call in the manual like that haha. Maybe 2nd edition or a combination of calls?

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Re: Defending against "Crunch" formation
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 12:32:49 AM »
OK thanks. I can't find any call in the manual like that haha. Maybe 2nd edition or a combination of calls?

I have gone off script before. :)

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Re: Defending against "Crunch" formation
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 01:29:11 PM »
Our call was Shift left then super which was shifting the LBs.
By alignment it is usually difficult to sweep right out of this so the corner can be moved up if the Outter back to the right is blocking outward on the DE.
I have with some success aligned the DE and the corner side by side and the DE will have a free path into the backfield.
Like was said earlier its off script but that is what is sometimes needed.
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Re: Defending against "Crunch" formation
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2016, 08:39:36 PM »
I run a LOAD call against this - not sure what Jack calls it. I move my weak side LB to over center, strong side LB to SPREAD and my weak side CB moves just inside weak side DE. Mike also shifts one step towards strong side.

I sometimes run SHIFT as well, but found that I am then too unbalanced. We did pretty well against this and Beast.
Interesting as I do the exact same thing.  After not seeing a call for it in the book I created calls for it...'cage' to the CB's and 'Storm' to the OLB's.  I keep the CB & OLB calls separated to have the flexibility to keep the back side CB 'sound'...BCR is always in play.