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Near back in the I-formation
« on: August 01, 2013, 06:09:54 PM »
Coach in a deuce look in a standard I formation with GUTS I will also show two 40 tech LB's..... In this configuration who is keying who???? Cause I know they are to key NEAR back... I'd assume MIKE will key fullback and WILL/SAM will key tailback..... But i'm not 100% sure.....

And what about in a three back I formation like Triple Power I or Stack I???? I will also show 3 LB's but who key's who???? Cause technically the Near back to ALL of them is the FB..... but if the FB runs right and the other two go left I don't want my LB's making a critical bad first step.. thanks coach....

All the other stuff seems much easier. Wishbone, Pro-Set, Power I/Offset I etc....

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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2013, 08:59:39 PM »
Vs I formation, The 40 techs both key the fullback through the guards.  If the fullback goes away, look for far guard to tailback counter stepping or wing back coming back.
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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 02:04:19 AM »
Awesome... sounds good....

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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 06:44:18 PM »
Coach do you ever run 7 on 7 with your 46 Gambler????

I suppose it would be worth it when it comes to pass coverage reads right????

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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 06:47:23 PM »
Coach do you ever run 7 on 7 with your 46 Gambler????

I suppose it would be worth it when it comes to pass coverage reads right????

We do pass skelly twice a week.

Shark, moose, wolf, two corners, falcon

so its really not 7 on 7.....
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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 06:51:35 PM »
Yeah I was gonna say that... :)

I was gonna use trash cans like you recommended so yeah it'll end up being 6 on 6......


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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2013, 05:10:59 PM »
Is wishbone also the same Coach?????

I use GUTS so in a double tight wishbone look Will,Mike,Sam will all be at linebacker depth... two 40 techs and a 00 tech.... So are they all reading the FULLBACK thru the guards????

And whichever LB sees flow away cross key's the opposite back for counter/reverse????

So if they run this: on snap all LB's are keying the 4 back. on snap 4 back and 3 back both step to the left and attack the left side of my defense (looking at pic) Will, Mike follow that key. Sam seeing flow away from him snaps his eyes back to 2 checking for counter and quickly stays home. 2 back counter steps left then runs right and takes handoff to the 5 hole. So if he plays it right he'll run right into Sam filling the hole.  Fred also initially steps with flow but comes back as he sees the counter back take the ball....

Does that sound correct???? I had always though near back meant every LB had a key (will keys 2, mike keys 4, and sam keys 3) but with backs crossing occasionally I realized that could be really bad....

-----------2------3------------
---------------4---------------
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---TE--T--G--C--G--T--TE---
L---C----T----N---T-----C----R
-------W------M-----S---------
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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2013, 05:13:19 PM »
Wishbone, we assign the two half backs to w/s and the fb to the M.

put the F on the qb.
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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2013, 05:24:02 PM »
Okay..... well in my playcall doesn't that mean Will and Sam would technically cross and COULD run into each other????? Or do you instruct them to play their side of the field???

So keying the fullback by two linebackers in a deuce call is limited to I formation???

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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2013, 05:48:26 PM »
If your near back goes away you just stay put, DONT GO TIL YA KNOW....you dont chase it and cross the backside A gap until you know.  let the M worry about the fullback treating it like an ace is one way to play him. then the w/s play the two half backs like split backs.
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Re: Near back in the I-formation
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2013, 06:48:14 PM »
Awesome... I like that... "DON'T GO TILL YOU KNOW"

I can see myself repeating that a bunch of times.....