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Modified ICE
« on: July 13, 2016, 02:26:23 PM »
Hey Steve,

I've got a question on ICE after I noticed something on your HUDL and play diagrams.

I began install of our Power/Blast blocking schemes.  I don't want to install ICE as a new series but rather as an extension to BLAST as they are blocked the same.... So for short yardage calls or simply when I want to use a bigger body i'll run these as a complement to the standard Ray 34 Blast/Lee 25 Blast series.

One thing I noticed about ICE is that the motion guy is running a fake AND the QB is running a fake along side him. And they are both faking technically to where you are running so the misdirection isn't an issue....

When I installed I used the same footwork, the same handoff, and the same upfront blocking (2 back can WHAM block DT if he's an animal then release to second level OR he can go ISO the backer immediately) and the TE fans out on the Defensive end.

The only thing I changed is that the motion back (3 back) I have him motion behind fullback and then he just takes off into the hole as a LEAD back.  I'm already losing the QB as a blocker like I have on blast so I didn't want to lose two. I KNOW that you are a massive force at the POA type o guy so I was surprised that motion back ain't doing anything.  The QB could pin the DE by simply faking an outside 6-8 hole keep no?????

Just wanted your opinion on such a play cause that is how we're going to run it this year...

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Re: Modified ICE
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 10:32:53 PM »
If I'm not mistaken the motion back and qb should carry out an option type look so you you can influence and widen DE and OLB. So the insert by PSWB leads on OLB and BSG leads thru for fullback. I could be wrong but how else would ice make sense. The point of the motion and fakes is to widen those mentioned above so fullback can slip underneath with an insert and bsg fold. 
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Re: Modified ICE
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 11:49:45 AM »
Yeah it CAN have an option look but the way it was being run in Steve's video it didn't look like they were faking like that..... Therefore I was thinking if the QB fakes only the keep then the motion back can just LEAD thru the hole onto another backer....

I do like the triple option look of that play however. I'd probably run it with TAGS to have it look different...

Ray 44 Blast (like steve runs it with 2 fakers)

Ray 44 Blast Keep (qb keeps)

Ray 44 Blast Option (handoff with a keep/pitch fake)

Ray 44 Blast Lead (motion back leads thru the hole for FB)

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Re: Modified ICE
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2016, 10:21:36 AM »
The qb and motion wing were coached to show option on ice and dog and indeed the option was part of that series, however, even HS kids sometimes get sloppy with execution of fakes and pitch relationship.
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Re: Modified ICE
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 10:53:14 AM »
Okay so for this series I have the option of doing a lead like I mentioned or sacrifice the motion wing/qb with a fake option look....

Okay I'll take a look at both and see which I like doing more....

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Re: Modified ICE
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 12:38:43 PM »
All day vs double eagle
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