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Re: the rocket/orbit sweep
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2014, 06:47:10 AM »
yes power sweep changed my whole mindset and really changed our season and thus has changed my career.  after the first game and half many coaches were saying" hahahaha obnoxious nick and his dw aint doing so hot!!!"   

different tune after the second half of the 2nd game when power sweep started popping---it also led to our big upset over city!!!

Nick, Markham wanted to duplicate/replicate the usc student body play, that's how the dw toss play was born...when he was a youth coach however, everyone played ends and corners so wide that hed run that toss off tackle...at the hs level, everyone wants to squeeze and spill the off tackle plays, so toss sweep is the play.

I would imagine, looking at our highlights, that there are tons of toss sweeps there....sweep til they weep is a very logical approach at the hs level with teams pinching and chasing from the rear.

trap, an obvious attack to those who are trying to pick off pullers with hard charging defensive linemen.

finally, passing more...with tnt laying on the ground submarining, teams offer only a two man pass rush! throw the ball.

with cover two, it makes sense to spread the defense post snap with three verticals....easy pickens .

....we had zero division I football athletes....we had just 8 seniors...we ran only one formation all season.. snapped the ball on the same cadence....and led the conference in scoring.   spread? why. multiple formations? why?.....execute your plays well and you can score. limit turnovers and run hard with a move the chains mentality and you can score....our worst games on offense showed that we didn't stay on our blocks and didn't run hard enough to keep the chains moving. 

we also missed wide open receivers in those games.

play calling could have been better, more accurate...


power sweep , for me...with the same blocking that I have advocated since I started...has been a rock , a staple...a seal inside, a seal outside and a lead through....run hard...hit the alley....move the chains.
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Re: the rocket/orbit sweep
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2014, 08:58:19 AM »
I am with you on that coach....we finished 6-4 and power sweep was a huge part of it

trap, wedge, power sweep were our 3 most called plays in that order.   I have not posted in the war room about our last game.  Because the administration did not let me coach in the game.  I found out 24 hours before the game my substitue cert ran out and I failed (big lesson learned)to be on top of it. It is the districts policy that you cannot coach without no matter who you are.  it was devastating to our kids and staff. We lost the game 21-0.  I met with the ad and superintendent Tuesday and everything is fine going forth for next year. They were even apologetic, but they had an incident in the past on a band trip and couldnt make an exception.  More on that later. 

We will be looking into being more affective in the passing game in 2015
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Re: the rocket/orbit sweep
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 10:13:39 AM »
I am with you on that coach....we finished 6-4 and power sweep was a huge part of it

trap, wedge, power sweep were our 3 most called plays in that order.   I have not posted in the war room about our last game.  Because the administration did not let me coach in the game.  I found out 24 hours before the game my substitue cert ran out and I failed (big lesson learned)to be on top of it. It is the districts policy that you cannot coach without no matter who you are.  it was devastating to our kids and staff. We lost the game 21-0.  I met with the ad and superintendent Tuesday and everything is fine going forth for next year. They were even apologetic, but they had an incident in the past on a band trip and couldnt make an exception.  More on that later. 

We will be looking into being more affective in the passing game in 2015

I am amazed you all can run wedge as often as you do.  teams just do not keep their defensive linemen on their feet much in our league.  Two years ago, with a  soph center who was physically not strong...their tactic was to put speedy nose guards slanting into the A gaps (to tackle pullers or cut wedge)...the center play has greatly improved for us so its not been an issue...also my linemen WOKE UP and started to align deeper as I have coached them to do - to help from being tackled and tripped up...but we still aren't being given wedge as an option very often.

dog became a go to play for us because it hits quick and with enough power to get us those tough chain moving yards...and it goes so well with power sweep when the playside backer flies outside to try and beat the guard to the point of attack.
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Re: the rocket/orbit sweep
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2014, 06:58:18 PM »
I will say we are a wedge team--we definitley ran it over ten times each game.  Wedge on hit has also been big for us.  we actually begin each offensive line individual with a wedge progression. 3 groups going all at once.  then we do wedge on hit....we end our offensive team with a wedge period over air

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Re: the rocket/orbit sweep
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2015, 10:20:16 AM »
Well,
we tended to be much more multi-formational than you, and this play fit in better with our concepts. We were never really able to get the Power Sweep running to our satisfaction the first year we ran the DW full time, so in 2008, we went to the Rocket Sweep.

Your blocking at the wing area was much better than ours, we needed to get out of the box fast. We had a bunch of 4.7-4.8 kids who were not great blockers- a 135 lb. Wing isn't going to consistently block a 220 lb. DE no matter how good his technique is.

Our Rocket Sweep was our #2 called play.
We averaged about 8 yards per carry on Power, and about 6 ypc on the Sweep.
Most everything else was about 4 ypc, with some exceptions, i.e. Wrap Around Draw was always a big play ( in 1999, from the Bone, we averaged 50 ypc on this play!), but it was only good once or twice per game.

Also you are running a lot more Power Sweep than we ever did. When we originally installed this, it was as a complimentary play to Power.
We did everything we could to keep our Power a viable play, whereas you and Steve run Power Sweep, Dog, and Trap so much more this year. We'd change the formation, instead.
We ran Power as approximately 45-50% of our called plays and it accounted for about 75% of our yardage, and as you are aware, we almost never ran a trap.

And our motion was different than yours. We abandoned the reverse crossover first step after we had a wing fall on his ass on a wet field and the QB pitched the ball to air. Our wings all drop stepped off of the outside foot on all of our plays, so the defense didn't really see a difference. I like how you and Steve have the Wing keep square to the LOS on Power. I'd probably teach a deep squared up shuffle for two steps, and then have him turn and sprint for the Sweep.

We tended to be much more Wingback oriented than you are, our wingbacks carried the ball about 80% of the time, you and Steve are far more balanced than we ever were.
This was partially a hold over from our Power Bone days, where the FB was thought of as a "third guard". Our FB was always a blocker first, and a runner second.

BTW, if I ever have the chance to coach the DW again, that is one thing I would change.
Our FB plays were Dives, Bellies, and Dog.
But it obviously worked for us.

I know you have watched our film.  If you remember or have a chance to go back and look at it again would you give an opinion on is installing the rocket sweep?  thumbs up ? thumbs down? why? why not? thanks