Consider helping MosleyTheCat keep the web hosting hamsters fed and happy. Please Donate.

Author Topic: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3  (Read 6462 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline CoachCraig

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1126
  • Total likes: 60
  • Coaching: High School
  • Defense: 3-3 Stack
  • Offense: Multiple
  • Title: Coordinator
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 12:05:58 AM »
On the serious side though......does it make a difference if the stack 53 is slanting the dt and bringing the OLB.

I dont stack my OLBs because I dont want the WB and TE to down block and leave my DE on an island.
"Whether you think you can, or cannot, you're probably right."

Offline Coach Correa

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1481
  • Total likes: 392
  • Loved by few but Respected by All
    • generalgridiron.com
  • Coaching: 14 & Under
  • Defense: 3-5-3
  • Offense: Wing T
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2015, 12:08:32 AM »
alrighty thats funny, like the picture. BUT I do hold this play dear. Its been a staple for a few decades. The nose never sees it coming, and with a hat on every linebacker it is sweet.

Corea yes thats very close but cut up field right off the centers backside and slice the defense in more of a 45 degree path, and 1 TE not 2. Althought I suppose it could be run with 2 as well. What you drew was the hb belly counter. I commonly use the wing for the tackle trap.
We package TT with belly and all our play's get ran from 100/900 tight. When they master that then we show them red/blue, loose, jumbo, trey,triple open ,over, pro, plus, minus, heavy, fire ,and flame,  But we hang our hat on two tight then we start playing games with fprmation's.
Head Coach Tito Correa
Meriden Raiders 14-U
Offense-Hybrid Wing
Defense - Odd- Stack

Offline coachnick

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1921
  • Total likes: 17
  • offense dw defense gambler
  • Coaching: High School
  • Offense: Multiple
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 07:15:50 AM »
I wasnt talking about a tackle trap guys--regular trap in the cdw...if you do not run the cdw then please do not answer....


53 stack......mike lb and 2 lbs s tacked over the 4 techs.......on a 40 trap who do you have your te block? his rule is fbi (first backer inside) ......however steve had the te go for the mike and by pass the stacked backer and the pulling tackle kicks out the stacked lb....we did not do that this year....I am asking what you guys do?

Offline Coach Correa

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1481
  • Total likes: 392
  • Loved by few but Respected by All
    • generalgridiron.com
  • Coaching: 14 & Under
  • Defense: 3-5-3
  • Offense: Wing T
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2015, 02:12:31 PM »
You guy's pull the tackle also on inside trap ?
Head Coach Tito Correa
Meriden Raiders 14-U
Offense-Hybrid Wing
Defense - Odd- Stack

Offline Tripwire

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1478
  • Total likes: 67
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: Wide Tackle 6
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 05:30:33 PM »
I wasnt talking about a tackle trap guys--regular trap in the cdw...if you do not run the cdw then please do not answer....


53 stack......mike lb and 2 lbs s tacked over the 4 techs.......on a 40 trap who do you have your te block? his rule is fbi (first backer inside) ......however steve had the te go for the mike and by pass the stacked backer and the pulling tackle kicks out the stacked lb....we did not do that this year....I am asking what you guys do?

Yea thats what I thought, I responded with what we do, we treat it normally.  Our C and RG block the nose, Tackle to MLB, TE would seal inside B/S in this instance, we would treat the stacked LB like a Lineman and release him since he is past the 0 hole.  He would have to make a hell of a play to be able to come back towards the center (0) hole if our FB was running hard.  Our WB would go BS as well bypassing the stacked LB.  The rest is the same, our backside tackle would lead 1st to show and guard would kick out the trapped DT.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Offline coachnick

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1921
  • Total likes: 17
  • offense dw defense gambler
  • Coaching: High School
  • Offense: Multiple
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 10:23:36 PM »
Yea thats what I thought, I responded with what we do, we treat it normally.  Our C and RG block the nose, Tackle to MLB, TE would seal inside B/S in this instance, we would treat the stacked LB like a Lineman and release him since he is past the 0 hole.  He would have to make a hell of a play to be able to come back towards the center (0) hole if our FB was running hard.  Our WB would go BS as well bypassing the stacked LB.  The rest is the same, our backside tackle would lead 1st to show and guard would kick out the trapped DT.

i dont think you are suppose to leave the lb unblocked coach

Offline Tripwire

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1478
  • Total likes: 67
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: Wide Tackle 6
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2015, 11:45:57 PM »
How deep are the stacked LB's.  I am picturing something totally different.  I am thinking it is much like a tight 3-3 look with DE's.  Are they regular LB depth? Say 4 yards?  Just stacked behind the DT, and Nose?
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Offline coachnick

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1921
  • Total likes: 17
  • offense dw defense gambler
  • Coaching: High School
  • Offense: Multiple
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2015, 07:21:16 AM »
How deep are the stacked LB's.  I am picturing something totally different.  I am thinking it is much like a tight 3-3 look with DE's.  Are they regular LB depth? Say 4 yards?  Just stacked behind the DT, and Nose?

hey are stacked over the 4 techs......inside the te for sure.....

Offline Tripwire

  • Silver
  • Posts: 1478
  • Total likes: 67
  • Coaching: 12 & Under
  • Defense: Wide Tackle 6
  • Offense: Double Wing
  • Title: Head Coach
Re: trap:pulling tackle verses the 5-3
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2015, 10:07:10 AM »
hey are stacked over the 4 techs......inside the te for sure.....

I got that, but how deep?  Are the stacked LB's all playing 4 yards from the ball?  Stacked 1 yard behind the down lineman?  Mike and Same playing 3 yards?  OLB's playing 5?

I would decide how to block them depending on their depth in film most likely.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.