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For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« on: December 12, 2010, 03:52:03 PM »
I have become very fond of this offense from reading the playbook. My main question is have any of you gotten into trouble with the slanted linemen? Many refs will let it go but you will find a few that will flag you just because it does not look like anything they see on Saturday or Sunday---and we all have had this guy before.

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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 05:46:53 PM »
I have become very fond of this offense from reading the playbook. My main question is have any of you gotten into trouble with the slanted linemen? Many refs will let it go but you will find a few that will flag you just because it does not look like anything they see on Saturday or Sunday---and we all have had this guy before.

The o-lmn MUST have the shoulders square to the LOS. It is a rule. Sorry.  :(
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 07:56:44 PM »
This is designed for really young players who would just block the guy in front of them otherwise.  So I had them tilt to look and see who they have.  You can teach them to run it from tilt in practice and, as they pick it up (And you can be running plays in 30 minutes), gradually start to reduce the tilt in practice.  And you can tell them day one this is going to happen.  I would think in four offensive practices you can have 90% out of tilt or to where the amount of tilt is immaterial.

If you were to scrimmage another team where you get 10 plays and the other team gets 10, etc. I'd start them out in "tilt" for the first 10 plays but remove it for the second ten.  This should make for an easy transition.
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 08:21:37 PM »
in a 8-10 league do you think i can get away with a slight tilt on the line?
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 03:45:17 PM »
in a 8-10 league do you think i can get away with a slight tilt on the line?

You can get away with a whole bunch.
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 10:08:47 PM »
in a 8-10 league do you think i can get away with a slight tilt on the line?

With the refs I've seen for this age group, you can get away with an O-line that curves into the backfield, late snaps by the center, and holding. I think you can get away with a slight tilt most of the time. ;)


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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2011, 08:41:01 PM »
Our Refs do not like "interesting" looks.  They will not allow the slanted O-line.  They do call the line in the backfield after a couple of warnings.  They do hold like crazy... drives me nuts because my guys are hands inside for the most part.
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 10:36:42 PM »
I ran Clarks UBSW last year and had alot of success. I also tilted my linemen. Never had a problem. What you need to do is show the refs before the game starts. Tilted linemen, plays, formations, and trick plays.If the ref has a problem get it hashed out before the game starts. Odds are most refs will not have a problem JMO.


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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 07:00:44 PM »
I talked to a few refs and they don't have a problem unless the line is overexagerated.  60 degrees may be too much but I can get away with 30.  Also, they said it depends on what position b/c the tilt gives an unfair advantage to the outside so TEs will be watched closely.

I'm still going to test and see what they will allow once they see it.
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 10:37:24 PM »
The o-lmn MUST have the shoulders square to the LOS. It is a rule.
Heh...not in one leagues in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area!  My correspondent Will Postell coaches in spring and fall youth leagues there where they like to adopt their own rules not seen anywhere else.  And no, I don't mean the officials just don't enforce certain rules or misconstrue others, I mean they actually adopt specific rules that are non-standard in cases like this one.

Won't help with Clark's UBSW for Bobbleheads, but I'll describe the applicable rule variation used in the spring league in 2011 and earlier (don't know about this year yet).  The ends were allowed to line up with the line of their shoulders slanted up to 45 degrees away from the rest of the OL, provided their outside foot was behind the inside one -- and one end could be in motion towards the rest of the OL (and facing any direction).

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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 02:07:05 PM »
Heh...not in one leagues in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area!  My correspondent Will Postell coaches in spring and fall youth leagues there where they like to adopt their own rules not seen anywhere else.  And no, I don't mean the officials just don't enforce certain rules or misconstrue others, I mean they actually adopt specific rules that are non-standard in cases like this one.

Won't help with Clark's UBSW for Bobbleheads, but I'll describe the applicable rule variation used in the spring league in 2011 and earlier (don't know about this year yet).  The ends were allowed to line up with the line of their shoulders slanted up to 45 degrees away from the rest of the OL, provided their outside foot was behind the inside one -- and one end could be in motion towards the rest of the OL (and facing any direction).

In MOTION???

What do they even have refs for?
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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 02:07:35 PM »
I ran Clarks UBSW last year and had alot of success. I also tilted my linemen. Never had a problem. What you need to do is show the refs before the game starts. Tilted linemen, plays, formations, and trick plays.If the ref has a problem get it hashed out before the game starts. Odds are most refs will not have a problem JMO.


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Re: For all of the coaches who has run this offense
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 09:03:27 PM »
In MOTION???

What do they even have refs for?
To enforce their rules.  I didn't say they didn't have any, just that they were theirs alone.  They also had 1-, 2-, and 3-pt. conversions, and some other goodies I posted about somewhere.

In the fall league, when a free kick ended in possession of team A/K, anywhere on the field, the ball belonged to R.  The lady in charge of that league didn't like onside kicks.