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Online DumCoach

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I was sent this message:
« on: October 05, 2011, 10:49:30 PM »
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funny you mentioned that - it was your exchange with Cisar on the UBSW forum that got me thinking about how we stop GOD teams now.  and yes, we run a WT defense also to accomodate talent as well as creating blocking issues for opponents. 

One thing that does confuse me though is you mention your UBSW as only a 6-7-8's offense.


All UBSW's are 6-7-8 offenses.   :D


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  Truthfully, this is what kept me from using it this year with my 11's.  What sucks is, I really didn't know WHY it's for suggested for bobbleheads and not older kids. It "appears" at least on paper to work against anything i could possibly imagine from a defensive perspective.

That's because I use the original blocking rules for UBSW. 

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  Furthermore, i think much could be done with it with respect to passing, formations, tags, etc....  Would probably have made a "dumbass coach's life" a lot easier.  Of course i could be wrong.  i usually am :)   

just accepted your advice as "he's smarter than me" and rather than question it, went about running the DCWT. 

I discovered when I couldn't pass due to QB/iron hand receivers/whatever, that the DCWT was not the best offense.  It's a passing Wing T.  When you can't pass, UBSW is the best offense.   That's why you don't see much passing from it in the manual.  I assumed I would be in the offense because I couldn't pass.  I also assumed I might have to dump DCWT against a superior playoff opponent, switch to UBSW, and catch them by surprise.  That meant an offense I could switch to in mere hours, which meant an offense for 6-7-8's.
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Re: I was sent this message:
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 03:12:18 PM »
We are a 5th and 6th grade team running the UBSW, and we throw 6 to 10 times a game.

I don't fill we have to throw that much to win, just to keep the Defense honest. I would rather pound the rock and keep the ball out of the other teamís hands than win by 30.

I love this offense, so many options and everything is easy to install once the base is down.

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Re: I was sent this message:
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 04:44:45 PM »
We are a 5th and 6th grade team running the UBSW, and we throw 6 to 10 times a game.

I don't fill we have to throw that much to win, just to keep the Defense honest. I would rather pound the rock and keep the ball out of the other teamís hands than win by 30.

I love this offense, so many options and everything is easy to install once the base is down.

I don't throw that many passes in a game with my passing wing T!   :D

Whose UBSW are you running that will let you throw that much?
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Re: I was sent this message:
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 11:03:55 PM »
Havent seen it but i hear Cisars new 303 has added some airraid concepts to his UBSW. May be where all the "Air Wing" is coming from :)

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Re: I was sent this message:
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 02:47:36 PM »
I don't throw that many passes in a game with my passing wing T!   :D

Whose UBSW are you running that will let you throw that much?

I have DC playbook and 303 book, and to Belebuchís point the new play book does have more passing in it.

We can throw to the WB, RE, LE, and FB out of base and SE, WB, RE out of Buck
SE, WB, FB, LE out of Jet

Once we have the D pinning their ears back and LB cheating up

No deferent than running the wedge. Every team we play there is bear crawlers to stop the wedge, but after a couple plays outside or off tackle they all start standing up. Once I see them off the ground "Wedge". Then you hear there coach yelling to stay low and we start pounding it outside.

My favorite pass play is out of Spinner, we run a couple 26 spinner plays and a spinner wedge play. When the LB see the FB spin they start moving to the 6 hole and our LE is off the LOS free. I play my MMPs at LE so when I get a chance to get them the ball or attempt to get them the ball I love to see them make a catch. We know that itís not going to be a homerun play but most of them are for 15 yards before they are caught.

I think the hardest to Defend is the Cross Pass out of Jet
Cross Pass Left: LE and FB cross
Cross Pass Right: SE and WB cross

Again Iím not saying we pass a bunch every game, but we do have some passing plays that IMO are very effective. After my first year of running the UBSW, I noticed toward the end of the year most of the teams were trying to load up and stop the Power and chase from the backside.
If I let the DC know early in a game or on film before the game that he has to at least think about us passing it makes running the ball much easier


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Re: I was sent this message:
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 05:26:37 PM »
   the DCUBSW is perfect for what its designed for, fast easy implementation into bobbleheads. we draft to have even talent but there just ain't enough stud 6-7-8's to go around, were lucky to have one who can consistantly throw over us and in the same general direction, maby two that can catch over 50%.

   iv found that you throw one pass and the defense wont pen their ears for as least 3-4 plays. when we complete one its for big yardage but everyone is looking to pic the next pass. then were able to break a big run or at least sneak in a first down or more.

   some times its hardest making the simplest things, it could have multiple formations tons of passes, the triple option, and we'd all grin thinking what to install for the next game. thats just not what its for.