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Offline Prodigy

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Single Wing for Flag
« on: July 30, 2014, 01:21:36 PM »
Hey folks,

I have about 3 years experience running Cisar Single Wing.  I'm familiar with other single wing variants from reading, experimenting and speaking with other single wing coaches.  This season I'm coaching 5-7 year old flag kids, which is a serious departure from the ground and pound tackle that I've been coaching for the past 3 years.  I'm still planning on sticking with single wing because it's what I know and it's what we run in our program.  The only rules that are specific to flag are "have to run outside of the tackles".  This leaves me open for power, sweep, reverse, passes probably a modified trap.

I'm looking for input on a couple of things:
#1-play selection.  I want to keep it really small because of the age of the kids.  Too much is going to be a disaster.
#2-Planning on using Clark's over here/over there blocking which I need to read up on again and understand how it works
#3-Play numbering...should I even bother with this?  I've had two days of practice and during water breaks I showed the kids back numbering and also asked them about even and odd numbers.  There are some kids that don't know the difference between left and right and some kids aren't great with even and odd.  I guess I'm a bit conflicted because it would be stellar to teach the kids how a football numbering system works, but I'm not sure if it's too much for them at this age.  On the flipside, if I don't teach it, someone is going to have to teach it to them next year...so I'm really just making the job harder for someone else.  Any suggestions here?  Is it WORTH learning the play calling system to only know 3-5 plays?

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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 11:27:19 PM »
Coach, these are JMHO:

1.) 18, 47 Reverse, Pass Right, 27, 49 Speed, and Jet Pass Right. First four plays go together to look like 18, 27 is a straight attack to the Quickside edge without motion, and the last two plays go together to attack the Quickside with speed and make teams pay for over-pursuit with the Strongside Flood Pass/Scramble by the FB. Plus, it satisfies the requirement of attacking the edges.

2.) The blocking works; just read up on it in the manual.

3.) Just call them Play 1-6. No hole numbers; no even or odd. Get them to be able to line up on both sides and get them to learn the plays in order as they master them. Only you need to know where they attack. You can go into a game with just the first 3 plays, if you run out of time before the first game. Play 1 - 18, Play 2 - 47 Reverse, Play 3 - Pass Right, etc.
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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2014, 12:03:36 AM »
I tried it with my flag team but my guys can't catch a cold, much less the snap so I decided on multiple wishbone/DW instead(formation only, no pulling or motion). The outside the tackle rule is just silly. Why would a coach put anyone inside the tackles with those rules? I know I wouldn't.

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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 08:06:33 PM »
Today was week 4, we had our first jamboree on sunday.  We went into the game with 16 power, 18 sweep, a 23, a 33, a 43 and a single pass play.  We murdered it.  First possession and play = touchdown, second possession and play = touchdown, third possession it took a couple of plays to get to the end zone.

The backs know the numbering.  The kids get to the line and run the play...it's actually pretty impressive to me. =)
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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 11:13:52 PM »
The only rules that are specific to flag are "have to run outside of the tackles".
Does any of the defense have to play inside the tackles?

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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 11:38:50 PM »
Does any of the defense have to play inside the tackles?
No one in our league runs inside the tackles besides us. It is going to be our bread and butter this year.

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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 02:16:10 PM »
Does any of the defense have to play inside the tackles?

Not that I know of.  I'm running the killer bee.  Like I said on the KB forum, if I wanted to be a meany...I'd line up my defensive tackles in the C gaps, put my DE's outside of the ends to crush down the line, have my OLB's outside.  Heck, I may end up doing that if we get murdered to the outside, but I don't see that happening.  The first team we played against during a jamboree, I didn't even have a defense installed.  They ran a few plays, we stopped them a few times before they broke out and made a TD.  We got the ball, scored on first possession / first play.  The receive the ball and I believe they went four and out, we took over and scored again.  All in all, I think we only ran about 4, maybe 5 plays if you count the bad snap. 

I've spent this week installing defense in preparation for our first regular season game...it should be interesting on Sunday.
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Re: Single Wing for Flag
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2014, 11:55:00 AM »
The single wing for flag is working out really quite well.  About the only thing I had to abandon was a blocking scheme.  I would have loved to have got the kids working with GOD but I fail to be able to explain it to them in the small period of time that they can focus.  We outscored the other team this week 6 TD's to 3.  The previous week was a tie at 4 TD's.  Need to get defense tuned up a little bit more.
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