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[*] posted on 7-16-2009 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
40 yard dash times



What is a good 40 time for an 11 year old? Thanks for any input!
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[*] posted on 7-16-2009 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote


4.3
40 may be a bit far for an 11 year old.
I may have some 30 yard times from last year

I will look them up




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[*] posted on 7-16-2009 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote


Thanks.

I would think 4.3 would be close to impossible for an 11 yr old though.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2009 at 01:00 AM Reply With Quote


"I would think 4.3 would be close to impossible for an 11 yr old though."

Well, you DID ask what would be a good time. lol And I agree with Robert. A 4.3 by an 11-year-old would be a very good time. Personally, I wouldn't run an 11-year-old in the 40. I'd use the 30. The best time I had on the 30 last year was 4.3.

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Sorry, I forgot to put the smiley face next to the 4.3 or the (tongue in cheek)



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[*] posted on 7-17-2009 at 06:44 AM Reply With Quote


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Originally posted by Grease
What is a good 40 time for an 11 year old? Thanks for any input!


Here is a document I created that compiled from about 4000 individual scores over the last 11 years.

http://dscreationsgregorydouble.homestead.com/ATHELTIC_SPEED_TIMES_FOR_KIDS_Age_5_to_14.docx

11 - 40 time 6.82 avg time and 6.13 is the best time I have seen.

11 - 20 tim 3.50 avg time and 2.83 is the best time I have seen.

11 - 10 time 2.12 avg time and 1.77 is the best time I have seen

11 - 20 pro-agility time 5.81 avg and 4.76 is best time I have seen.

For me the 40 yard is a break away speed time meaning it is only relevent for kids that are RB, WR, DB, and LB so once they get into the open field can they get to the endzone or can they catch the kid getting to the endzone.

The 20 is my overall speed time some like DC use the 27 yard and others use 30. I use 20 because there are few calculations I use to measure speed endurance withe 40 and 10 and I have been doing that for about a decade now but I think the 27 and 30 are relible as well.

The 10 is a measure of quickness which is a great tool for measuring getoff for linemen.

The pro-agility is a good measure of lateral quickness.

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[*] posted on 7-17-2009 at 07:28 AM Reply With Quote


bonescoach...I figured you HAD to be kidding. Getting used to the vibe of the board...and love it ; )

Thanks coachgregory! That's just the info I was looking for. I realize the 40 might not be a great tool for this age, but they timed the kids recently on the track and that was all I had. Since pros, colleges and high schools use the 40, I just wanted to know what was good for that age. Looks like they did pretty well since the fastest time was a 5.5.

Awesome info and stats! Thanks alot!
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[*] posted on 9-3-2009 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote


coachgregory ,
Are these times in full gear, or just shorts , tshirt and no helmet?
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[*] posted on 9-3-2009 at 11:52 PM Reply With Quote


I would say that Coach Gregory's average time is very close to what we see in our league. All our times are in t-shirts and shorts and run on natural grass. We use SPARQ timing cones for testing in the 20/40 yard dash.

However, I would not consider us a football "factory" by any stretch of the imagination and yet I have kids (10-12) who have run 5.55, 5.68 and two others on my team run under a 6.0 in an "auto", not hand-timed 40 this season. One of these kids (a 12 year old) is 135 lbs. and wears an 11 1/2 size shoe! We actually had a 12 year old (about 120 lbs.) run a 5.15 at a combine session this season as well. This year's crop does seem to be the fastest we've had in several years but, again, I'm surprised by the deviation from the years of data that Jack has collected.

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coachgregory ,
Are these times in full gear, or just shorts , tshirt and no helmet?


Shorts, cleats, and shirt...socks as well :)

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I would say that Coach Gregory's average time is very close to what we see in our league. All our times are in t-shirts and shorts and run on natural grass. We use SPARQ timing cones for testing in the 20/40 yard dash.

However, I would not consider us a football "factory" by any stretch of the imagination and yet I have kids (10-12) who have run 5.55, 5.68 and two others on my team run under a 6.0 in an "auto", not hand-timed 40 this season. One of these kids (a 12 year old) is 135 lbs. and wears an 11 1/2 size shoe! We actually had a 12 year old (about 120 lbs.) run a 5.15 at a combine session this season as well. This year's crop does seem to be the fastest we've had in several years but, again, I'm surprised by the deviation from the years of data that Jack has collected.

Dave Hartman
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I am not. I think with the advances in speed training for kids you are going to start seeing better top times...over time average times will start to improve as well. I have seen a trend in the last three years that implies that.

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