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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2013, 01:47:41 PM »
One thing I'll add is our County has done a fantastic job aligning youth programs with the High Schools.  All Public HS have a feeder program for football, basketball and baseball.  Each program gets its own dedicated park, athletic fields and youth athletic association.

The program works so well, we have 4 Alumni playing in the UA All America game Friday.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2013, 01:50:05 PM by YCarr »
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2013, 01:51:33 PM »
One thing I'll add is our County has done a fantastic job aligning youth programs with the High Schools.  All Public HS have a feeder program for football, basketball and baseball.  Each program gets its own dedicated park, athletic fields and youth athletic association.

Yao

You are in Georgia. Seems they do things right when it comes to sports.  ;)

Here...well now you cant sell pot within 1000 yards of any HS.  ::)
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2013, 01:54:05 PM »

Here...well now you cant sell pot within 1000 yards of any HS.  ::)

I'd be broke.  :'(
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2013, 02:28:28 PM »
Our number one goal is to get our kids into high school. But we are a new org and not PW and most high schools are loyal or tied to the hip of PW programs. Plus we are not tied to any high school. So we are really feeding kids into 3 main public schools and potentially 2 private schools. We are trying to use terminolgy and plays that most high schools run but it is hard when all 3 run different things.

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2013, 06:24:51 PM »
I'd be broke.  :'(

But cheerful and maybe hungry ;).

I think HS coaches miss the boat when they don't get plugged into the youth programs. We have a coaches clinic and a one week full contact camp the week before the youth season starts practicing. We try to get all of the 12u and 14u teams to run the HS's base offensive stuff and a sound Defense.  As a coach that is both at youth and the HS I know what we are trying to instill. First and foremost is program pride. We want every middle school kid to have the goal of winning a state championship at the HS. Instill the idea that great things come from being part of something bigger than you. We teach that this is only possible through hard work, integrity, service and doing your job. Funny thing happened along the way we started winning championships at the youth level. Kids are not satisfied with being good at their level, they want the job of the guy playing on Friday night. We have HS kids showing up at youth practices to help and it makes an big impact. Unless the HS reaches down you don't get this, IMO.

Middle school kids are lifting and involved in speed programs they are taught that is the path to success. We end up with bigger, faster harder working players in our youth program and the High school is getting better with each class. We all have the same goals and speak the same language.

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2013, 07:32:28 PM »
Yao,

Here's my 2 cents...

Although it sounds like the HS coaches are knowledgeable in your locale, keep in mind that there is a wide range of coaching expertise/knowledge at the HS level. So, expect that what you get may vary considerably by coach.

You could have a one day event, or, perhaps conduct a clinic over the course of a few evenings. If held in evenings, a HS coach might only attend that evening in which their area of expertise (i.e., topic/position/etc.) is addressed.

If a one-day event, I'd have the morning focus on classroom instruction. You may want to divide up "classroom time" by position and/or concept (e.g., blocking, tackling, defensive schemes, etc.). I would outline, in specific detail, what you would like each classroom session to address. Think of it as if you are developing "lesson plans" for each class.  Include ALL of the details. Do not leave it up to them. Tell them what you want. Sorry, if you want something worthwhile, you need to invest the time and energy into making it a success.

Let them suggest modifications/additions, however, those must be acceptable to you.

In the afternoon, I'd want those same classroom instructors to take the field and demo key concepts/coaching points, with their players, youth players or coaches. So, I learn in the morning in a class, and then see how they teach what they covered in the class, outside, with people, on grass. Again, these demos address what you want.

I'd tape everything. Have it available for all of our coaches.

BTW, we used to conduct a summer camp. We'd bring in local HS coaches and tell them what we'd like them to teach the kids (we had a detailed script and I personally reviewed in advance with each coach). Now, in the end, some did not do precisely what we were looking for, but most were on the money, so to speak. Our youth coaches were "assistants" at these stations. We found that our coaches learned alot in in teaching schemes/techniques/concepts, but, more importantly, they also learned alot about how to teach and communicate to the kids. The latter part was huge.

Good luck.  ;)
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2013, 07:44:03 PM »
Here's how De La Salle did it in 2011:

http://usafootballclinics.com/uncategorized/de-la-salle-football-coaches-clinic/

2012 was pretty similar.

I seem to remember the O and D sessions running longer than 45 minutes.  And, like so many great clinics, there ended up being no break.

The opening talk and the closing Q&A session were in an auditorium.
The special teams talk was in a classroom with video.  2011 was KOR and 2012 was PR.
The O and D sessions were on the field, with players demonstrating drills and such.  I think O was OL, Receivers, and RBs and D was DL, LBs, and DBs.

I thought it was awesome.
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2013, 01:12:40 PM »
Hey YCarr, you and Tim Irons going to let me come to the Clinic?

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2013, 01:35:46 PM »
Our number one goal is to get our kids into high school.
Is that a challenge in your area?

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2013, 01:37:42 PM »
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Dimson is from Sanford, & yes it's a challenge for boys to complete HS.

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2013, 01:41:33 PM »
Dimson is from Sanford, & yes it's a challenge for boys to complete HS.
Well if that's the case, then Dimson certainly has his priorities in order.

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2013, 02:03:59 PM »
Here are the things we focus on:

1. The technique of how they do things. Blocking, tackling, alignment, etc.
      -For instance, last year the OL coach talked about how he taught that the position step was more/less a timing step. He didn't care if they put it up and down in almost the same spot but wanted it to be quick. He talked about the alignment of their knees in a duck walk (pressed inward like they were trying to hold a football). He talked about rubbing elbows on the rib cage, he talked about teaching them to clap on the punch (to emphasize hands going inside out on the defender, his teams don't actually clap, but it was a good point of emphasis). He talked about "demeanor" (body position). Our clinic was more of technical hands on so he showed the drills with some of the high school kids. Each position coach did that in detail with each coach that wanted to learn.

2. The terminology they use to describe something (Formations, sweep vs toss, etc).
    -They don't ask that we do anything the same, but we have the same formation, we try to call it the same thing. I don't see the benefit of me just making up a name because I feel like it. I use the names they use. We don't come close to using all of their formations, but the ones we do, we use their names. We also have a formation or two they don't use.

3. Our high school team has a set practice plan and we try to mirror that. Call the time periods similar. We have PUP (Pass Under Pressure) just like they do. All it really means is running your particular passing game against blitzes you will actually see. All teams do that, so why not call it the same thing and run it in a similar way?

4. We actually have not talked tackling drills much with them, but I think we should.

5. I would have a time period (however small) to talk about how you can help create more of a sense of community. The most important thing is our HS coaches are around and available. They stop by our practices on their way out and say hello. They come to our home games (they are usually watching film inside and step out for a few minutes). Kids see that and appreciate that. If the HS coaches show they care, kids buy in.


I think a lot of HS coaches give the political answer to "We just want kids to block well, tackle well, and love the game." Of course they do, that's the minimum standard. My bet is they would love to have kids that are as polished as possible. I doubt you will find a coach that says "I would hate it if a kid knows a little bit about our system and how we do things." That's not going to happen either.
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2013, 02:04:44 PM »
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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2013, 03:44:53 PM »
Well if that's the case, then Dimson certainly has his priorities in order.

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We want them to be physically and mentally ready. If a kid is doing bad in school and we know about it, he won't play. Or he will have to show signs of improvement. I have no problem with a kid sitting out of practice to finish his home work if it means he does better in school. I mean I would love to have all our kids go on and be stars in high school and get full rides. But I know that isn't realistic but what is realistic is for everyone of them to graduate high school and get to college based on what they do in the class room. I mean we had one of the best athletes I have ever seen but I told him none of it matters if he doesn't have the grades to make it to college. He is currently living in the Chicago area last I heard and is tearing it up. He is a good kid who has had a tough life, I just hope he listens to the advise I gave him.

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Re: Opportunity to Clinic with High School
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2013, 11:51:34 AM »
Ask them if they are ever going to beat Grayson HS? ;)