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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2017, 10:16:07 AM »
Knowledge and ability are wrapped together. You have to have the knowledge about football, in the whole, in order to have the ability to coach. It's more than X's and O's and more than being Curly from the three stooges. You have to ask yourself the what's and why's to the most basics of levels. Physicality and aggression can make up for some execution. Some execution can make up for some lack of physicality and aggression. Combine the two and you will only be best by a like minded team. At the youth level, getting kids mentally prepared for football should be first thing learned. Slowly building upon the technical side of the game.
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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2017, 10:22:38 AM »
I've been reading Run To Win about Vince Lombardi's Coaching and Leadership skills for the last week. Everything I want to know is in that book.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2017, 10:39:53 AM »
Using the Feynman technique is a great way to really understand and relate to kids.
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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2017, 04:52:03 PM »
Using the Feynman technique is a great way to really understand and relate to kids.


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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2017, 04:58:36 PM »
Using the Feynman technique is a great way to really understand and relate to kids.
One of the worst things we can do as a coach is to use coach speak at practice. I have used the Feynman technique  in coaching for a few years. I found that without it I could stray, putting in too much, or use coach speak. Before you teach anything to a child you should try it out.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2017, 05:47:19 PM »
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My training was more along the Socratic lines. Coach speak tends to go against that. that's why our protections are directly from porno's. The players named them.

 Other then Feynman was a physicist & that great quote I am not that familiar. Elaborate for the rest of us.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2017, 05:55:25 PM »
One of the worst things we can do as a coach is to use coach speak at practice. I have used the Feynman technique  in coaching for a few years. I found that without it I could stray, putting in too much, or use coach speak. Before you teach anything to a child you should try it out.

I disagree. Football is a language within itself....so teach them the language as soon as possible so you can better communicate.....coach to player and player to coach.

I deal with this every Spring....my Fall players fully and completely understand the lingo....the rest pretty much do not....initially. 

Im not sure how you could teach this game without the "speak". It provides too many shortcuts.
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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2017, 06:11:59 PM »
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There is a difference between coach speak & football language. I agree we teach our verbiage ASAP, but we don't use coach speak.

I can remember Paul teaching the defensive techniques & a player asking what a guard was. Coach Speak is when you are talking above their level.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2017, 06:21:11 PM »
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There is a difference between coach speak & football language. I agree we teach our verbiage ASAP, but we don't use coach speak.

I can remember Paul teaching the defensive techniques & a player asking what a guard was. Coach Speak is when you are talking above their level.

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For me its all the same.

Can you give and example of the two?
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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2017, 07:00:13 PM »
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Sure:

Coach Speak: Find the sidewalk defender

Football Speak: Block the most dangerous man.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2017, 08:11:33 PM »
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Sure:

Coach Speak: Find the sidewalk defender

Football Speak: Block the most dangerous man.

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Makes sense....since I have never heard of a sidewalk defender.
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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2017, 09:18:50 PM »
When you are breaking things down, keep asking yourself why? This will get you to the most simplest form of understanding. You don't just learn it better, but can explain it to a six year old.
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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2017, 09:36:29 PM »

Makes sense....since I have never heard of a sidewalk defender.


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I wish I could say I made that up, but it's actually from a clinic Tito & I watched on line. It was the Tackle's rule on Bubble to his side. The explanation was the force/contain defender outside of #1's block. Sometimes it was the Corner, other's the OLB or SS.

Instead of the confusing verbiage, we say Block MDM, most dangerous man. It's actually the same concept but simpler for the players. Now that coach did a nice drill, similar to one we use but we eliminate any hesitation. The thing is, sometimes coaches make things complicated instead of simple.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2017, 07:12:37 AM »
I disagree. Football is a language within itself....so teach them the language as soon as possible so you can better communicate.....coach to player and player to coach.

I deal with this every Spring....my Fall players fully and completely understand the lingo....the rest pretty much do not....initially. 

Im not sure how you could teach this game without the "speak". It provides too many shortcuts.
Sorry Mike. No way I am wasting my time teaching a kid what a 4i tech is. He is a down block. That is all they need to know. Once we get going, that stuff creeps in but on week one, or week 3 for that matter, I have other things that are more important to teach. Feynman would teach the down block without mentioning a 4i and then once the down block was taught and the whys as to why it would be a down block then he would teach the player that he was blocking a 4i.

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Re: Coaching Knowledge vs Coaching Ability
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2017, 10:12:04 AM »
Sorry Mike. No way I am wasting my time teaching a kid what a 4i tech is. He is a down block. That is all they need to know. Once we get going, that stuff creeps in but on week one, or week 3 for that matter, I have other things that are more important to teach. Feynman would teach the down block without mentioning a 4i and then once the down block was taught and the whys as to why it would be a down block then he would teach the player that he was blocking a 4i.

Makes sense.

I had a bit of a Eureka moment after my oldest grandsons second grade season. I flipped the script and started teaching why first then how second especially on Defense. I came to the conclusion after that season that if kids didn't know why then learning how was more difficult. The issue now is player placement because I have to do a bit of judging the book by its cover at times... but that gets easier as they get older.
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