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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #480 on: December 02, 2016, 01:31:10 PM »
Winning on the football field has eluded me for sometime now. Practices are intense and physical. Scrimmages are the same way. As for game time, we can not get aggressive until after half time.

--What is different about "after halftime" that allows them to become aggressive?

I have had these problems for a while and do not know how to fix it. Losing is as contagious as is winning.

--If it were truly "contagious," then wouldn't we continue to lose games after losing a game?  "Contagious" sounds like "something you can't help."  And if being "contagious" is something real, then who's the doctor on your staff that's responsible for ridding it?

I think the majority of players are prepared to lose, until the figure, " hey these guys aren't unbeatable. We can hang with these guys."

--I think a lot of coaches are prepared to lose, too.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #481 on: December 02, 2016, 03:40:21 PM »
I do not understand why first and second half are different. There is definitely something I am doing wrong. I feel we can beat most teams we played. We are very flat when we come out on the field. It is not every player, but at least 3/4 of them, that look scared to play football. Lazy, lethargic, and lost is what we look like when we show up. If that does not change, and we do all types of drills to get the blood pumping, I know we are in big trouble. We will be down 21-0, 28-0, 28-6, or something along those lines. Then we will end up scoring and holding the from scoring or to one more score. Sometimes we score twice, but if we hit a 26 point differential, we go to running clock. Obviously it is something I am or am not doing. It is a badge of honor to mercy rule(end game early) in our league. Coaches freak out when we shut them down and we score, even when it is to late to come back. So I am at a loss and understand that this on me to fix.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #482 on: December 02, 2016, 03:43:28 PM »
To me, as far as O-Line goes, if you hit properly on the first play, everything is a lot easier.  I think a lot of players use the first play to sort of see what the competition is like, so they can decide whether they're going to be the bully or the bullied.  Drill someone on the first play hard enough, and you own him.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #483 on: December 02, 2016, 03:45:04 PM »
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I wasn't trying to rub it in, or even self aggrandize. Merely explain my road. Everything we did was towards being a better coach. In my early days I would coach 3 teams, so we had days where we spent 6 hours on the practice field from 4 to 10. I realize not everyone was given those opportunities.

It was funny when I first moved on to HS, I thought wow; now I will really see some coaching. Same when I first came to Florida. The truth was the coaching I had learned was equal, if not better. That is why I often say the men coaching Youth Football are as good if not better then those getting paid.

This is why I talk about the social aspect. I think it's important that your coaching staff interacts together. You need to develop relationships with your coaches. We always talk about being a family, in order for that to be true, it needs to be true.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #484 on: December 02, 2016, 03:51:02 PM »
I do not understand why first and second half are different. There is definitely something I am doing wrong. I feel we can beat most teams we played. We are very flat when we come out on the field. It is not every player, but at least 3/4 of them, that look scared to play football. Lazy, lethargic, and lost is what we look like when we show up. If that does not change, and we do all types of drills to get the blood pumping, I know we are in big trouble. We will be down 21-0, 28-0, 28-6, or something along those lines. Then we will end up scoring and holding the from scoring or to one more score. Sometimes we score twice, but if we hit a 26 point differential, we go to running clock. Obviously it is something I am or am not doing. It is a badge of honor to mercy rule(end game early) in our league. Coaches freak out when we shut them down and we score, even when it is to late to come back. So I am at a loss and understand that this on me to fix.
You ever intrasquad scrimmaged right before your game? That would get the blood flowing.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #485 on: December 02, 2016, 04:21:15 PM »
All I will say to all that I'm reading is. When i 1st started Coaching at 22 years old. I thought just cause I was born into Coaching (Dad was Varsity HC Hartford Public) and played sports at the Collegiate level. Yeah I had and idea and knew a little better and more than the terrible Daddy Coaches my son started with in 2002. My ego really told me that I was gonna set the youth Coaching world on fire if they just let me do things my way. Well they did and lets just say thank GOD I wasn't the HC because it was a train wreck and i contributed to the wreck because these idiots were actually listening to me. But looking back at it that nightmare was the best thing that ever happened to me. It made pick up books surf the web and attend clinics. There was no way i was gonna except being that bad  and worked my tail off to learn how to Coach. Bottom line to me Failing or being average SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME. That year always haunts me and makes me strive to learn something new everyday and venture into other parts of Coaching that we all take for granted. Like having fun and teaching core fundamental's at the same time. But even with something that easy there's a correct way to approach it and that's were the learning comes in to play.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #486 on: December 02, 2016, 04:45:38 PM »
To me, as far as O-Line goes, if you hit properly on the first play, everything is a lot easier.  I think a lot of players use the first play to sort of see what the competition is like, so they can decide whether they're going to be the bully or the bullied.  Drill someone on the first play hard enough, and you own him.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #487 on: December 02, 2016, 05:18:13 PM »
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I wasn't trying to rub it in, or even self aggrandize. Merely explain my road. Everything we did was towards being a better coach. In my early days I would coach 3 teams, so we had days where we spent 6 hours on the practice field from 4 to 10. I realize not everyone was given those opportunities.

It was funny when I first moved on to HS, I thought wow; now I will really see some coaching. Same when I first came to Florida. The truth was the coaching I had learned was equal, if not better. That is why I often say the men coaching Youth Football are as good if not better then those getting paid.

This is why I talk about the social aspect. I think it's important that your coaching staff interacts together. You need to develop relationships with your coaches. We always talk about being a family, in order for that to be true, it needs to be true.

Joe


I understand where you were coming from Joe, I was just gigging you a little.

I really like your comment about coaching having a big social component. That makes sense to me.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #488 on: December 02, 2016, 06:36:10 PM »
Failing or being average SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME.

You too?

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« Reply #489 on: December 02, 2016, 06:43:50 PM »
In my early days I would coach 3 teams, so we had days where we spent 6 hours on the practice field from 4 to 10. I realize not everyone was given those opportunities.

I never coached 3, but I coached two teams in '06, '07, '08, '09 and '10.  School teams and youth.  Ran our Double Wing with both teams at once.  Coached middle school (in the afternoon) and youth (in the evening) from '06-'08 and high school (in the afternoon) and youth (in the evening) from '09-'10.  It was a lot on my plate but it was an incredible opportunity to accelerate my learning.

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« Reply #490 on: December 02, 2016, 06:44:53 PM »
You ever intrasquad scrimmaged right before your game? That would get the blood flowing.

That's what we did; played one quarter of football right up to kick-off.

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« Reply #491 on: December 02, 2016, 06:46:10 PM »
Drill someone on the first play hard enough, and you own him.

In youth football, this statement ^ reigns supreme.

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« Reply #492 on: December 02, 2016, 07:05:19 PM »
We are very flat when we come out on the field. It is not every player, but at least 3/4 of them, that look scared to play football. Lazy, lethargic, and lost is what we look like when we show up.

--Flat/lazy/lethargic and "scared to play football" are two entirely separate issues.  Yet, you talk about them together as if they are one and the same. ??

If that does not change, and we do all types of drills to get the blood pumping, I know we are in big trouble.

--Drills such as?

We will be down 21-0, 28-0, 28-6, or something along those lines. Then we will end up scoring and holding the from scoring or to one more score. Sometimes we score twice, but if we hit a 26 point differential, we go to running clock. Obviously it is something I am or am not doing.

--In youth ball, holding an opponent (that's already way ahead) to a scoreless second half, or even scoring a TD or two in the second half is usually nothing more than your opponent taking their foot off the gas, putting in MPRs, and either playing much more conservatively or trying high risk plays that have little chance of working.  I would never use the performance in the second half of a game that you lost as any sort of reliable barometer of your team's success.

It is a badge of honor to mercy rule(end game early) in our league.

--If you say so... ::)

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #493 on: December 02, 2016, 07:26:01 PM »
"In youth ball, holding an opponent (that's already way ahead) to a scoreless second half, or even scoring a TD or two in the second half is usually nothing more than your opponent taking their foot off the gas, putting in MPRs, and either playing much more conservatively or trying high risk plays that have little chance of working.  I would never use the performance in the second half of a game that you lost as any sort of reliable barometer of your team's success."

I crack up every time I hear a "but our boys stepped up in the 2nd half of the blowout." I mean, the 2nd half is usually when we start our all sub defense, or let the other team score on kickoff return.
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« Reply #494 on: December 02, 2016, 08:08:18 PM »
You too? Absolutely theres never a time were I'm comfortable and feel it's all good. I take nothing for granted soon as your on auto pilot you lost .Seen it happen with many undeafeated regular season teams that are loaded but get hit with the oh we had a bad day.No you didn't your path of least resistance cost you closing the deal that's on the Coach not the kids.

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