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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #570 on: December 06, 2016, 02:00:39 PM »
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Please understand in this post I am not trying to "Hammer" you or belittle you.

Everything you are describing sounds like coaching issues. Off Sides is a drive killer, we insure this can't be tolerated by 2 means. First, our cadence is extremely simple making it difficult to go Off Sides. Second, in practice we are very hard on any flinches or movement. We never punish the individual rather the team.

Pass defense comes down to coaching, I have always said one of the poorest areas of Youth Coaching is the secondary. Most coaches will get around this by simply playing better athletes there.

Nervousness, often comes from 2 areas. First & foremost is the tone set by the coaches. The second is not being properly prepared for what will happen in a game. We always go through a "Game Script" as part of our practice routine. This includes all special teams as well as any situation they may encounter.

Only Play the whistle doesn't matter? A Fumble.
How to handle On Side's Kicks.
Victory Formation
Victory Defense.

Any situation that happens in a game.

Simply by being prepared you remove the "Performance Anxiety" you team is experiencing. Here is a simple example, we always review what happens on the coin toss. Our captians understand the options & what they mean. Several times in Youth Ball we got the ball both halves because our opponent didn't understand this.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #571 on: December 06, 2016, 04:19:52 PM »
Isn't that what most of the seasoned coaches here recommend? 

--It is.  So what's the problem?


Dave, that isn't the problem.  The issue is when what he knows and runs isn't what someone else knows and runs.  Opinions drive too many responses.

You never question the "what."  You emphasize and question the "how" and "why."  If more coaches stuck to that, the better the forum would be IMHO.  And the more participation, I think, would result.


But there are too many who have their preferences (opinions) and everyone else is wrong (just read the "Voted " thread!).

--Good grief, no.  I swear I wish there was a no politics/no religion mandate on this forum.


I really wasn't suggesting that.  My comment was really an attempt at sarcasm.  I am not very good at sarcasm.

Here is the reality of the "voted" thread:  People will spout off as though they are experts by regurgitating crap they read without ever researching the issues.  The same goes for some of the football threads.  And when that happens, the people in the know try to set the thread straight.  Then things tend to get off topic and more heated than it should.  And when that happens, people either fan the flames (because that is what the internet is for) or step away altogether.


When I first started visiting the youth forums (the DW forum then DC) years ago, there were a lot of active participants.  But as time has passed, there seems to be fewer and fewer posting to these sites.  It would be interesting to know if that is because fewer people are joining and more visit as guests or is it that there are fewer people looking to coach youth football: lower overall participation in the forums.

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I am not blaming anyone.  It is just an observation.  And I certainly have no idea why it seems that participation is decreasing.  I can make some assumptions but espousing to those will only generate the type of thread I most dislike.


Kent

I agree w/ some of what you're saying Kent. But curious how many threads you think end up like this? 1/10? 1/20? 1/50?

I feel like the % of threads that get flamed is pretty low.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #572 on: December 06, 2016, 04:21:13 PM »
MH
I am here to get better. All I need are honest opinions and a kick in the right direction. Our cadence is " Ready set go" we will go on two, the second go or set. Majority is on go. At practice we do updowns, suicides, and bear crawls for mistakes. We have our center QB exchanges every practice and reinforce the how. Secondary is a weak point of mine. We did not scout, my fault. We did not throw or practice the passing game as much as we should have. I think that had a lot to do with not being able to play the ball in the air. The false starts were mind boggling to me. The were used in everything we did and punished if you had it wrong. We worked Clark's 10 perfect plays. I agree it was all coaching issues. I am just trying to get better. I appreciate all feedback
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #573 on: December 06, 2016, 04:28:29 PM »
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Msg me if you want to talk.

That is a simple cadence, Off Sides shouldn't be an issue. The fact that is a concern. I think sometimes it's hard to diagnose a problem with out actually seeing it.

It would probably worth a call.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #574 on: December 06, 2016, 04:42:04 PM »
We go on first sound.

We spend the extra time that saves through out 40 plus practices perfecting the No Play-something that will get us yards and first downs-and our Go Package.

We also run a silent count series-our "Go" Package.  This is a set of five plays all from the same formations.  On these we never had a false start.

We had  only a couple of false starts all year and those were receivers and backs leaning.

And both of these ideas would work with your basic plays system which I love by the way.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #575 on: December 06, 2016, 04:45:37 PM »
We go on first sound.

We spend the extra time that saves through out 40 plus practices perfecting the No Play-something that will get us yards and first downs-and our Go Package.

We also run a silent count series-our "Go" Package.  This is a set of five plays all from the same formations.  On these we never had a false start.

We had  only a couple of false starts all year and those were receivers and backs leaning.

And both of these ideas would work with your basic plays system which I love by the way.

Can you explain how your silent count works?

I've been trying to develop a silent count system that either works off time, or an audible sound that doesn't seem relevant to the defense, but gets our offense to go.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #576 on: December 06, 2016, 05:01:18 PM »
Can you explain how your silent count works?

I've been trying to develop a silent count system that either works off time, or an audible sound that doesn't seem relevant to the defense, but gets our offense to go.
All you have to do is a ready signal. When the qb gives that signal, it is on the center to snap it. And you can do it on one, two or three just like a regular snap count.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #577 on: December 06, 2016, 05:07:19 PM »
Normally We are No-huddle and up tempo, so our GO! package is super up tempo.

Normally we call formations and motion, and then the once in formation all players lock eyes on Play Caller and then when ready Play Caller uses hand signals to call play.

On our "GO" Package we start calling out Go! Go! Go!

Yelling GO! tells everyone two things-it is a silent count and the formation-we only run Go! out of one formation.  We then yell out a play-like one name for QB Sneak is Devil-of which we have Five Plays.

So it would sound like "GO! GO! GO! Then pause for about 4 to 6 seconds to get in formation. Then yell "Devil".  Its that fast.

Plays we run out of GO!:

QB Sneak-we have three different names for this play as we run it often in a game and I can say never lost yardage and it averaged about 4 yards per play.
5 ISO
5 QB Follow
Quick Pitch Left
QB Sweep Left

GO! package helped us twice this year score at end of 1st half.

Also love to run GO! after a big gain of 15 or more yards.  GO! GO! GO! Hammer-was our quick pitch left and it was a great play after big gainer.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #578 on: December 06, 2016, 05:53:10 PM »
All you have to do is a ready signal. When the qb gives that signal, it is on the center to snap it. And you can do it on one, two or three just like a regular snap count.

That's what i've been thinking. A READY, then a thousand 1-2-3 in their heads, everyone off at the same time.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #579 on: December 06, 2016, 05:55:32 PM »
That's what i've been thinking. A READY, then a thousand 1-2-3 in their heads, everyone off at the same time.
you lift up the leg. Qb is ready.
You lift up the leg twice, qb is ready.
You can slap the centers azz
the guard can tap the center
You can give the center the decision on when to snap.
the list goes on and on.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #580 on: December 06, 2016, 05:59:22 PM »
you lift up the leg. Qb is ready.
You lift up the leg twice, qb is ready.
You can slap the centers azz
the guard can tap the center
You can give the center the decision on when to snap.
the list goes on and on.

Ya,  it's easy to get the QB & C  on the same page.  getting all 11  going at the same time on a silent count is more difficult. I've actually never seen that done in a youth game.   silent count with just QB & C,  everyone else a step behind, seen that plenty. But never all 11 on the same page.
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #581 on: December 06, 2016, 06:08:51 PM »
That's what i've been thinking. A READY, then a thousand 1-2-3 in their heads, everyone off at the same time.

If you could look into the head of the average youth you will see one of two things...boobs or Sponge Bob.  8)
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #582 on: December 06, 2016, 06:15:02 PM »
If you could look into the head of the average youth you will see one of two things...boobs or Sponge Bob.  8)

 you accidentally  left out "COACH"  after "YOUTH."
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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #583 on: December 06, 2016, 06:34:40 PM »
We did not throw or practice the passing game as much as we should have. I think that had a lot to do with not being able to play the ball in the air.

--I think if you had, you would have seen that your pass defense would have improved.  Hard to improve a defensive deficiency when the offense doesn't practice against it.

The false starts were mind boggling to me. The were used in everything we did and punished if you had it wrong. We worked Clark's 10 perfect plays. I agree it was all coaching issues.

--I have a drill that JRK calls the "mind$%#& drill."  We use it to solve our off-sides issues.  Off-sides is not a problem for us and hasn't been for years.  Don't have a PowerPoint for it but you can call me about it, if you like.

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Re: Developing Coaches
« Reply #584 on: December 06, 2016, 06:39:01 PM »
You can give the center the decision on when to snap.

Our Center calls the cadence in our offense.

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