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Offline Bruceja

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What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« on: October 11, 2015, 08:44:05 PM »
Do you have to have a feature QB or RB to make this machine run?

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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 10:39:23 PM »
Do you have to have a feature QB or RB to make this machine run?

We have won with truly great QB's, mediocre ones, & way below average. The same goes for the other positions. Of course if you are terrible across the board it doesn't matter. Each team will have it's own identity, it's always easy to have a good athlete at QB. Usually the line needs 2 good lineman at the guards, the center needs to be reliable on the snap but not a mauler. The Tackles need size & heart.

We usually modify what we do to the individual teams talent. We start with a certain view & then let the team have it's own identity. Our best RB at TB, best receiver at either Z or X(X usually the best receiver & Z our fastest player). I try to never ask a player to do something they can't do. If your QB can only throw 20 yds don't ask him to throw 21 yds, the funny thing is most throws are less than 19 yds.

The major issue I am discovering with others running this system is the more you coach it the better you will be. Coach the little things because they aren't little. RB & QB exchange has to be flawless, coach it. O Line's first step perfect, coach it. Fast Screens need to be fast, coach it. The fakes need to be real looking coach it. The RB needs to get up field coach it.

Every year I think we stink at the start of the year, we get better every day. We coach it. Personnel isn't the real question coaching is. You will need at least 3 competent coaches. You can do it with 2 on the offensive side, but that makes it rough. Give me a call if you want more detail.

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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 11:22:28 PM »


The major issue I am discovering with others running this system is the more you coach it the better you will be. Coach the little things because they aren't little. RB & QB exchange has to be flawless, coach it. O Line's first step perfect, coach it. Fast Screens need to be fast, coach it. The fakes need to be real looking coach it. The RB needs to get up field coach it.

 


This is it. I started the season thinking we were going to loose every game and I had to find a way to keep the games manageable. Just yesterday we went up against a league powerhouse and marched it up and down the field. 

You have to know what your team does well and coach them up on it. We are slow so I don't expect to be running a lot of G or Stretch but we do run downhill hard and quickly so Power, Trap, and even Zone have been our bread and butter.  We don't get break away runs on them but averaging roughly 6 yds a carry right up the defenses gut and taking it to the LB's gives us the ability to sustain 8+ play drives when need be.  My QB can't run away from a turtle but he's smart with the ball and has a decent enough arm to hit the out routes stretching the field.   

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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 08:04:55 AM »
  My QB can't run away from a turtle but he's smart with the ball and has a decent enough arm to hit the out routes stretching the field.

We were very successful with a similar QB. We would call boot as a way to slow our offense down.
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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 09:34:04 AM »
I ended up 5-3 and one and done in the playoffs. Considering I had four returning players from last years squad, I can live with it. Strength of our team running this offense was the jet game. The biggest issue I had was a lack of confidence in our ability to work from gun. It took away from our QB run game as well as the screen game. Hope to expand on it next season and find better ways to coach this offense more efficiently. In my eyes, a center became a pretty big deal.
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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 09:45:25 AM »
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In youth ball we always found a dependable player for center. Typically they aren't our best blocker, just dependable. We work the snap everyday & every drill. Our centers probably get 500 snaps every practice. In O line drills they are snapping Nerf balls to no one, just to ensure they are snapping first.

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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 08:17:06 AM »
I was having a conversation with a coach a few days ago. We were discussing personnel, & the comment was isn't funny how when you were a running team you always had a great TB, now you are Spread & always seem to have a great QB. I chuckled & thought about it. The first & most important consideration is choosing the right player for the right position.

I remember going to a clinic when I was a young coach,(insert old joke) & the speaker talking about coaching talent vs potential. Johnny is tall & at the weight limit & runs like a deer. In pads he's a dud. Freddie is short fat & waddles, all Freddie does is make plays. How many coaches will sit Freddie & Johnny starts?

Just because a player looks the part surely doesn't  mean he plays the part. Billy is the fastest player on the team, Bobby is the best running back; I see coaches starting Billy & sitting Bobby.

Lastly, what a player does in practice is only a view of what he will do in the game. Often, players will be either better or worse in an actual game. It's seems in practice they become accustomed to their team mates. We call it "Brother In Lawing", so never make that set determination on a player until you see them against competition.

One of my Mint Hill teams had a player we worked at QB. He was tall, quick, & had a rifle arm. At our first scrimmage I saw him fall apart, & knew from one play he couldn't be our QB. Even though we dominated the scrimmage I just knew what the truth was. As a coach you have to make these decisions without any bias.

Joe
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Re: What are the personnel HAVE TOs to run this system?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2017, 11:55:42 AM »
One of the issues I heard a lot last season, was coaches getting locked into to personnel. Rarely if ever can you simply tell from practice if your team has everyone in the right spots. We always ran as many different players as we could early on to determine truly who was the best.

Coaching is about having an open mind to whom plays where.

Joe
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