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'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« on: December 07, 2011, 12:45:28 PM »
I've never even seen an illustration of GOD, GOL, SAB, GOOD GOD, etc., etc. Seems everyone has a name for a blocking scheme nowadays. When I implemented the DW concepts, [Back-in-the-Day] we didn't have names, just had to figure out everything for myself. Took awhile, cause I'm not to bright! As you know, Markham doesn't even have a name for any of his schemes. Crap, no wonder I was lost!
I guess 'IOL' Blocking is what I used. I used it in my DW for Toss [Power] and my Counters [Gap] for 13 years, but is also what I use in the 'I' Pistol. Took me this long to illustrate out. If you see any of my film on youtube, this is what you see!
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My Conclusion after Page 5
IOL is similar to GOL in that
1] WE BLOCK THE 1ST MAN [ INSIDE [INSIDE GAP]-ON-TO LB ] FROM THE CENTER OVER TO THE PLAYSIDE

But, I guess the difference is that in IOL the 'O' or 'ON'
2] ‘ON’:  ALSO MEANS YOU DOUBLE-TEAM ANY MAN ‘ON’ - OR 1ST MAN ON OR OUTSIDE THE PSG
I DON'T THINK THE 'O' IN GOL MEANS DOUBLE TEAM THE MAN ON, AT LEAST I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT STATES THAT.
SO IN RETROSPECT THEY REALLY ARE NOT THE SAME! SIMILAR BUT NOT THE SAME.

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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 03:12:25 PM »
Well done and this will be a great resource!  I am very curious to learn if my 9-10 year olds will handle these specific assignments and reads, or if TKO is simple enough and easier for them.  I have no doubt, as my kids mature, we will implement rules and blocking assignments.  From me experience with the season just finished, I had kids struggling to block on an angle, on a track, in TKO.  They always wanted to block the guy standing right in front of them.  No matter how much time we spent on this in practice, I had lineman blocking straight ahead in the game.  If you can imagine everyone from center to tight end playside blocking at an angle, except that the tackle decides to block straight ahead, you can see the gap in the line that is created between the guard and the tackle.  Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not.

I wonder if rules, with specific assignments, might be better.  Knowing who will be double-teamed.  Making the call either in your head or out loud, etc.

Maybe I did it wrong, but my center in TKO was blocking at an angle away from playside.  My center often had a hard time making the angle block, it was hard enough to make sure he made a good snap, and then finishing the snap and angling over to take on what might have been one of the studs on the defense was a big responsibility.  This blocking might help that.

Coach, I really appreciate your work on this.  It gives me a lot to consider and a lot to work with as I prepare for the upcoming season.  The diagrams are "very helpful."
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 03:20:20 PM »
I've never even seen an illustration of GOD, GOL, SAB, GOOD GOD, etc., etc. Seems everyone has a name for a blocking scheme nowadays. When I implemented the DW concepts, [Back-in-the-Day] we didn't have names, just had to figure out everything for myself. Took awhile, cause I'm not to bright! As you know, Markham doesn't even have a name for any of his schemes. Crap, no wonder I was lost!
I guess 'IOL' Blocking is what I used. I used it in my DW for Toss [Power] and my Counters [Gap] for 13 years, but is also what I use in the 'I' Pistol. Took me this long to illustrate out.
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makes more sense than god. No offense steve.
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 03:27:34 PM »
Well done and this will be a great resource!  I am very curious to learn if my 9-10 year olds will handle these specific assignments and reads, or if TKO is simple enough and easier for them.  I have no doubt, as my kids mature, we will implement rules and blocking assignments.  From me experience with the season just finished, I had kids struggling to block on an angle, on a track, in TKO.  They always wanted to block the guy standing right in front of them.  No matter how much time we spent on this in practice, I had lineman blocking straight ahead in the game.  If you can imagine everyone from center to tight end playside blocking at an angle, except that the tackle decides to block straight ahead, you can see the gap in the line that is created between the guard and the tackle.  Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not.

I wonder if rules, with specific assignments, might be better.  Knowing who will be double-teamed.  Making the call either in your head or out loud, etc.

Maybe I did it wrong, but my center in TKO was blocking at an angle away from playside.  My center often had a hard time making the angle block, it was hard enough to make sure he made a good snap, and then finishing the snap and angling over to take on what might have been one of the studs on the defense was a big responsibility.  This blocking might help that.

Coach, I really appreciate your work on this.  It gives me a lot to consider and a lot to work with as I prepare for the upcoming season.  The diagrams are "very helpful."

I ran this as my main scheme for over 13 years in the DW and even when I coached at the youth level. I looked at TKO because how simple it is supposed to be. Bottom line [ and I'm not demeaning any scheme] this is tried and proven and successful. No scheme is as simple as we want it to be! And, yes I do have rules like any scheme, BUT this really works. I never ever worried about creating a WALL. My biggest Toss plays were Cutbacks by the WB's off this scheme. It WORKS!

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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 03:28:46 PM »
I ran this as my main scheme for over 13 years in the DW and even when I coached at the youth level. I looked at TKO because how simple it is supposed to be. Bottom line [ and I'm not demeaning any scheme] this is tried and proven and successful. No scheme is as simple as we want it to be! And, yes I do have rules like any scheme, BUT this really works. I never ever worried about creating a WALL. My biggest Toss plays were Cutbacks by the WB's off this scheme. It WORKS!
what do you define as a cutback?
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 03:34:53 PM »
Thanks coach I'm enjoying the material that I already have but this really is easy for everyone to understand.

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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 03:37:35 PM »
Once the WB gets to the 2nd level, he cuts back against the grain because of the flow to the Power hole. Like I said, we never tried to create a wall such as TKO. We used our Double Teams to drive the DL into the LB's laps, force them to go around the DT's so our Pulling OL could seal them in or out of the hole and letting the WB read his cut [ inside-upfield-outside]

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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 03:38:27 PM »
Thanks coach I'm enjoying the material that I already have but this really is easy for everyone to understand.

It will be in the revised DW playbook as well

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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 03:42:22 PM »
Once the WB gets to the 2nd level, he cuts back against the grain because of the flow to the Power hole. Like I said, we never tried to create a wall such as TKO. We used our Double Teams to drive the DL into the LB's laps, force them to go around the DT's so our Pulling OL could seal them in or out of the hole and letting the WB read his cut [ inside-upfield-outside]
how far back is the cut in relation to the original spot of the ball. is he cutting behind the center? if the ball is on the  and you call a play to the boundary, does the cut end up all  inside the has to the boundary.
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 04:02:45 PM »
The cut comes after he gets to the 2nd level or just up the hole past the LOS. My WB's were taught that once they got up the hole past the LOS, look for the cutback. If the Toss was right, they went up the hole and looked left for the cutback. The cutback lane could be anywhere from around 2-5 yds back across the field

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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 04:05:32 PM »
makes more sense than god. No offense steve.

Im glad you have something you like.

To me, they are two different things (I havent looked at the document yet)- its all about what you want to make your priority.
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 04:08:20 PM »
Im glad you have something you like.

To me, they are two different things (I havent looked at the document yet)- its all about what you want to make your priority.
i said it makes more sense than god....not that i would use it. I am going to use covered uncovered with calls. not that big a deal.
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 04:12:47 PM »
Again, Im glad you have something you like. Covered/Uncovered, sab, tko, good god, god, moma, gol, goa, goat, goal, gob, zone stuff, I really dont care....I get emails every day from guys that tell me they like what they got from me, I know Jack and Dave and wyatt and murphy and markham and valatton etc all get comments that folks like what they got from them...the point? Its whatever works for you...what can you grasp and more importantly, what can you pass on to your kids.  My system is very detail oriented pinpointing everything...its not a "general" thing, its like lazer guiding your double teams and kickouts. lol.


IM sure over time, folks will just continue to study all of the available systems and put out their own spin on it (just like this one) and say "now THIS makes sense to me!"...

I just got an email today from a HS coach in Calif...Ill share it in a moment...
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 04:15:30 PM »
Again, Im glad you have something you like. Covered/Uncovered, sab, tko, good god, god, moma, gol, goa, goat, goal, gob, zone stuff, I really dont care....I get emails every day from guys that tell me they like what they got from me, I know Jack and Dave and wyatt and murphy and markham and valatton etc all get comments that folks like what they got from them...the point? Its whatever works for you...what can you grasp and more importantly, what can you pass on to your kids.  My system is very detail oriented pinpointing everything...its not a "general" thing, its like lazer guiding your double teams and kickouts. lol.


IM sure over time, folks will just continue to study all of the available systems and put out their own spin on it (just like this one) and say "now THIS makes sense to me!"...

I just got an email today from a HS coach in Calif...Ill share it in a moment...
the sum of that post, is why you have my respect.....god makes zero sense to me....but it doesnt have to. It makes sense to you and  its YOURS....and that is all that matters. THAT IS WHAT ALL COACHES NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
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Re: 'IOL' BLOCKING IN 'I' PISTOL OR DW
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 04:15:38 PM »
The message is titled "CHAMPIONSHIP GAME"

Hey Coach I'm Coach XXXXX assistant OC with XXXXXXXXX. I wanted to let you know that last year I came to the school after coaching two years at another local school with the request to install the Double wing at XXXXX. I had coached at XXXXX 3 years prior and suggested they run the Double wing then( a offense I learned while coaching youth football) but the head coach wanted to run other things. We made the playoffs but never won league or a playoff game. Last year I put in the GOOD GOD system and we tied for league and won our first playoff game in school history even in the next round we rush for 284 yds but had defensive issues. This year we were rank #1 in our division for the first time and after two loss we should've won went into the playoffs as a at large team. In the second round we played the #1 team in our division and beat them 14 -7 with a 10 min scoring drive for the win. We then handle our next opponent easily a game we were suppose to lose running all over them and now we playing this sat for the championship. Your system is our key because there are other teams running double wing in our division but not like ours which helps us greatly. God willing we continue Sat but I just wanted you to know how your system turned a program around.
 
Coach XXXXX
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JV O.C.
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XXXXXXXHigh School


Now you see, if changing the system made it easier for a coach to teach his kids...then I feel pretty good about it.  ;)
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