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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 01:26:32 PM »
The AD's met and we got our schedule. It's going to be interesting. My AD did me no favors.

Game 1, away 9/18

vs a spread team that runs a 4-2-5. It is supposed to be their "JV" I've heard they have 3 teams. There HS played in the state championship game last season. Their middle school pop is listed as over 600 students. My entire school district has 750 students. My middle school has maybe 200.

Game 2, home 9/24

Vs  a WingT team that is very good, the 8th grade coach let "slip" he felt pressure with this team because the have not lost since the 5th grade. :) they will most likely run a 6-2

Game 3, away 10/1

Vs a "I" back option team. They will be in a 4-4 blitzed The a gaps last year.

Game 4, home 10/8

Vs an 8 man team that wants us to run only 8 man against them. We are trying to run our offense with 11 and our defense with 8. They have resisted that in the past I hear.

Game 5, away 10/15

Vs game 1's "A" team. Spread offense, 4-2-5 defense.

Game 6, home 10/22

Vs a team more our size. Not sure what they run on offense or defense.

My assistant coach is very not happy about the schedule. Shoot I don't like it. My wife has had the best quote of the year, as far as I am concered. When I told her the schedule...

" Good! Now go out and beat them and they'll know how good of a coach you are! "

:) love that woman. But going undefeated will be tough.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2013, 12:53:32 AM »
Hate switching kids around but trying to find a center is killing me. I would like the guys to have 2 spots that they absolutely need to know. But some I have bounced from center to tackle to tight end. I have an issue at full back. My best one is one of my smallest 7th graders. He is also the team screw up so far. And the other coaches son. Problem is he has know weight behind him. Actually threw one of my qb's over there today.

As of now. My line looks like this.
Left TE- 5'11 160lbs  a little clumsy, can't catch.
Left OT- 5'8.  170lbs  slow but will give his all.
Left G-  5'7. 155lbs. Our best athlete and football player. Can't say enough about this kid. Also the fastest on the team
Center- 5'8 150 getting there with agression. Not sure how it will go.
Rt G - 5'7 165 good athlete. Likes to pull.
Rt tackle- 5'8 180 also one I have been switching.
Doing.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2013, 02:48:42 AM »
Ok. First opponent runs spread on offense and 4-2-5 on d.  They will be head up on guard and tackle w/ the outside lb jamming the tight end. Corner will be only a few yards from the wingback. All really tight.

M first thought is 28 jet. Or 18 stretch. What so you think.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2013, 06:18:56 AM »
Ok. First opponent runs spread on offense and 4-2-5 on d.  They will be head up on guard and tackle w/ the outside lb jamming the tight end. Corner will be only a few yards from the wingback. All really tight.

M first thought is 28 jet. Or 18 stretch. What so you think.
Yeah it,ll work but use your 8 & funnel calls,also  our  24 wham kills 40 fronts,just a thought.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2013, 09:35:45 AM »
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I have been thinking on going 24 blast. Vs this d it really turns into a 6-2. Every thing is getting clogged up in that 6 hole.

I used funnel yesterday but lost my dbl team on the DT tried having the fullback dbl with the tackle, that did not work as well as I would like.  Today I am going to look at having the WB fold back in and dbl the tackle fullback will seal inside backer, guard will hit corner. (Or maybe the other way around) right now my tackle play is weak. And my fullbacks have no weight behind them.

Probably will just turn it into a 24 blast and not get fancy. Probably your wham, do you kick the tackle with the fullback or a motioning wing?

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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2013, 09:51:58 AM »
We run our wham against even fromts and odds when the dt is a 4i . Pst and te k/o psg and c wash fb leads wb folds and bsg pulls . The funnel should work if the de is a shade out 8 tech. If in a 7 and squatting  8 call should be in order. Fb and pullers wrap around the double team fb to oslb and pullers same mission.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2013, 02:16:53 AM »
Our Crowthers 2 man JV s advantage sled came in today. I love it. Also the s advantage tackler. This is a youth size. It is just a bit to small for my bigger guys. But it is great for the youth program below us.

I love the sled, however it immediately made some of our errors look magnified. I knew they were there  just not so bad. Kids have no power stomps going on even though we drill it every day. They hit the bag and turn sideways trying to lean into it and push.

Worst of all ball get off is HORRIBLE!!

All will be fixed.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2013, 02:35:50 AM »
Had a good moment 2 days ago. I have an 8th grader that is big and fast and can hit. He was slated at our rt guard. Until he kept making bonehead mistakes. Horrible stance and slooow pull.

After playing a 7th grader in his spot for a few days he asked me if he lost his spot.

I told him I have seen him show me he wants it. And that he has to work to keep it. During  team period I call for All the players that are first team offense. I look over and my 7th grader is moving from right guard to TE. And there at right Guard is the eighth grader. I just looked at him and asked did you just decide to take it back. "YES, coach" comes his answer. I told him good job, it's yours no don't give it up. He has never been as aggressive as he has been since that moment.

Also today running mesh. Trying to cycle athletes through as fast as possible.  Kids were just not jumping in fast enough. Finally I paused the drill and let them know that if the wanted a rep they better take it. Those that didn't want it would not get playing time. A 3rd string wingback decided that they wanted in right as my ad walked up. Pushed starter out of position starter shoved back. Got a bit heated until 3rd string established better positioning. And I set that backfield for the rep. I told the ad that if they want to play they need to be willing to fight a little for their spot. She smiled and said I see that.

All I can say is thanks coach DP for this practice psychology. We haven't even played a game yet and I feel we are more aggressive than last year.

With Coach Cox offense and Coach Potters aggressive practice. I think we're going to do pretty good.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2013, 11:07:24 AM »
After playing a 7th grader in his spot for a few days he asked me if he lost his spot.

I told him I have seen him show me he wants it. And that he has to work to keep it.

--Which is why I don't mind taking kids off the 1st string.  In my experience, when it's explained to them like that, they step up and raise their game.  Right now, I've got 2nd-string Varsity Center and Guards, as well as a backup JV Tight End who want to play.  As a result, they put in extra time with me after practice and on Saturday.  Just from the JV Tight End showing up, he's going to get more time in the next game.  This shows the players "if you want to play, put in the extra work."  I'm waiting to see how this is going to affect the starting TEs.  As for the Varsity players, their OC holds the keys as to whether they get in, or not.  But they are willing to put in the work.

During  team period I call for All the players that are first team offense. I look over and my 7th grader is moving from right guard to TE. And there at right Guard is the eighth grader. I just looked at him and asked did you just decide to take it back. "YES, coach" comes his answer. I told him good job, it's yours no don't give it up. He has never been as aggressive as he has been since that moment.

--Boe, you are teaching the player that it's his decision on whether he starts, or not.  Most kids think that it's the coach who decides if they play, or not.  That leads to 2nd string players who accept their fate and 1st stringers who can grow less motivated because they feel the coach has made the decision.  When you let your players know that THEY determine who starts and who plays, we see a higher level of motivation.

I paused the drill and let them know that if the wanted a rep they better take it. Those that didn't want it would not get playing time. A 3rd string wingback decided that they wanted in right as my ad walked up. Pushed starter out of position starter shoved back. Got a bit heated until 3rd string established better positioning. And I set that backfield for the rep. I told the ad that if they want to play they need to be willing to fight a little for their spot. She smiled and said I see that.

--And that's how you develop the alpha-dog mentality, you establish that anyone can take or lose a position at anytime and get a greater effort from all of your players.

All I can say is thanks coach DP for this practice psychology. We haven't even played a game yet and I feel we are more aggressive than last year.

--Boe, I'm just glad to see that it's working for you and more importantly, that you understand how to work it.  To me, it seems so clear.  But often I end up with "So you let them fight?  How long do they fight?  Why would they have to fight? So what if someone gets hurt?  What if a parent gets mad?  What happens if a 2nd stringer gets more playing time than the starter?  So you let them fight?" ad nauseum. (sigh)

With Coach Cox offense and Coach Potters aggressive practice. I think we're going to do pretty good.

--Keep us posted.

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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2013, 01:17:38 PM »
My left side of my line is solid, except for my left tightend who can't remember what to do. My right side is in trouble except for my rt te. Right guard after his break through on effort and wanting his spot. Cannot remember when to pull. Right tackle is gone hunting so his back up is in. My other option for rt guard is my left te which I explained his issue above.

My Tailback is getting it. But can't adapt so I can't add anything new. He is the fastest on the team and can run. Still runs 2 high and has issues with a straight track to the hole. He is probably my best blocking back also but if put him at wingback he can't catch. Would move my wing to TB who is fast and has hands but is a little timid.

Full backs have one that gets it but is to light and a premadona asked him why he didn't catch a ball that landed right in front of him. His response what's he didn't feel like diving. He is now 2nd string. If I had more he'd be further down. My other Fb is strong and a good athlete. A little uncoordinated but is starting to pick up the plays. This is his first year football.

Coaching them up as well as I can. I may have more help this week. 2 days of practice until I take my kids to play a team that has 50 something. This will be interesting. They have had a game already. We need a game badly. :)

I do believe I have a good team. We are night and day better than last year.  Just the issues here and there. Of course I pick things apart.

I told them that I was proud of all the hard work they were putting in. And that they were looking good.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2013, 01:28:27 PM »
B, have you had a scrimmage yet? If not can you find a team that would?
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2013, 01:33:37 PM »
They won't let us scrimmage. We have been half line and against the 2nd team players holding shields. They are tiny.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2013, 01:54:11 PM »
They won't let us scrimmage. We have been half line and against the 2nd team players holding shields. They are tiny.
What about with the freshman,not a full bash scrim, just a technique and assignment type with different D looks .
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2013, 02:43:42 PM »
That's actually a good idea. Although I am on rocky ground with the HS HC. Especially after this last weeks youth game. HC gave me a not so nice look, as I was speaking with an old coach from the area that has been a coach for over 28 years. It's a long story, but the current HC has essentially banned him from our practices. Becuase he spoke out at a coaches meeting about the offense. Sorry. This is a veteran DW coach and very nice guy I am going to talk to him as much as possible.

I am also not running triple option and that makes me public enemy #1   Oh well. I don't have the athletes to run it.

So good idea but not sure how it'll work.
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Re: 2013 Panthers
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2013, 03:37:43 PM »
That's actually a good idea. Although I am on rocky ground with the HS HC. Especially after this last weeks youth game. HC gave me a not so nice look, as I was speaking with an old coach from the area that has been a coach for over 28 years. It's a long story, but the current HC has essentially banned him from our practices. Becuase he spoke out at a coaches meeting about the offense. Sorry. This is a veteran DW coach and very nice guy I am going to talk to him as much as possible.

I am also not running triple option and that makes me public enemy #1   Oh well. I don't have the athletes to run it.

So good idea but not sure how it'll work.
Have you ever tried running the tripple using Coach Cox's stuff?