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Offline tcoxman

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Re: 5225 STACK DOWNLOAD
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2011, 06:48:55 PM »
That's a very good question, and one that I can't personally answer. But I do know that it has to do with the level you coach and whether or not you are aggressive or consevative as a defensive coach. The younger the age group, the more aggressive you can be. It's tough to have a sophisticated passing game with young kids, it's mostly run. I think when you get to 11-12 age group and up [although there are some 10 yr olds that pass pretty good], the blocking and passing gets a little more sophisticated. You might get a few teams that can pass well and create problems for the defense. Cover 3 is by far the easiest to install and play [my opinion] and is solid vs most offenses. The 521 is basically a cover 3 PB with stunts from different angles. It is much easier to play Cover 1 if you have some quick athletes. If you don't, then Cover 3 is the way to go.
You might want to post your question on the forum and see if you get some results. I do know that Coach B ran some cover 3 and cover 1. Coach Don High is pretty much strictly a cover 1.

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Re: 5225 STACK DOWNLOAD
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2011, 07:03:28 PM »
That's a very good question, and one that I can't personally answer. But I do know that it has to do with the level you coach and whether or not you are aggressive or consevative as a defensive coach. The younger the age group, the more aggressive you can be. It's tough to have a sophisticated passing game with young kids, it's mostly run. I think when you get to 11-12 age group and up [although there are some 10 yr olds that pass pretty good], the blocking and passing gets a little more sophisticated. You might get a few teams that can pass well and create problems for the defense. Cover 3 is by far the easiest to install and play [my opinion] and is solid vs most offenses. The 521 is basically a cover 3 PB with stunts from different angles. It is much easier to play Cover 1 if you have some quick athletes. If you don't, then Cover 3 is the way to go.
You might want to post your question on the forum and see if you get some results. I do know that Coach B ran some cover 3 and cover 1. Coach Don High is pretty much strictly a cover 1.

Coach I bring pressure and I'm a Cover 1 and Cover 0 guy, but keep in mind, My best athletes  are Falcons (CB), Hawk (FS), and (Pitbulls) 5's! So i could run Cover 1 and Press because my corner backs was my starting running backs on both side and best athletes on the team so I can blitz them or jam! They are usally 5-7 yards inside shade and take a couple read steps back before attacking tho!

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Re: 5225 STACK DOWNLOAD
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2011, 12:22:27 AM »
Thanks for the response and I realize that this is just part of the bigger picture(521), of the coaches that ran this at the youth level what was your coverage and why? How many ran man, how many ran zone, or how many ran a combo of both?

We ran it last season coach and we ran man most of the season. At times we would run man/zone when we saw spread. The main reason why we went with man is because of the concept of the system. We wanted to bring pressure every single play. We didn't want them to have time to do anything and wanted to take away they're quick reads. Most youth QB's can't make 2-3 read pass progressions. The main point is that they're taught to read a side and if that read is gone run with the ball. The 5225 plays on that and take that away from them. When we played against this select team that ran spread we ran 22, 52, and 25. It's safe to say that this team went str8 to a power set and left the spread alone. By this system being a balanced system they could never out flank us. You couldn't counter us, revs. us, and couldn't make a living passing on us. Zone is a nice concept...but I found when you bring the type of pressure the 5225 bring you're better off with man then zone. Once you get in your base man concepts the zone part seem easier. If you go zone to man it would be much harder because of the kids learning the shifts that come with motion and shifting from the offense.

The 353/335 is one of the most diverse systems you will ever run at any level. You can flex to so many looks and do so much with it. The only problem is doing too much. This is why I only installed the 5225 1st, and then we added the other adjustments as we went along. We installed it in one hour and we held our own against teams we should had lost to. We generated tunovers and it kept coaches up all night as to how they will attack this system.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2011, 11:09:53 PM by Coach Big B »
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Re: 5225 STACK DOWNLOAD
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2011, 10:38:58 AM »
Great explanation and to the point!

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Re: 5225 STACK DOWNLOAD
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2011, 11:10:22 PM »
Great explanation and to the point!

Thanks coach....but I still have a lot to learn about your systems.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2011, 03:44:07 PM by Coach Big B »
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Re: 5225 STACK DOWNLOAD
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2011, 06:49:10 AM »
I thank you both 8)
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