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Offline CoachAD

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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 02:52:12 PM »
This would be Pistol formation, just as in Coach Cox's video's......
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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 07:04:44 PM »
Along those lines, on Blast/Stretch series is it worth blocking the CB?  I'm coming from DCWT and we rarely blocked the CB and let what is similar to your Stretch motion take the CB out with the fake - which it almost always did.  So you run 26 Blast again and again until the CB stops looking at QB's fake and then you run 18 Stretch naked.  Since the QB isn't blocking like in the traditional DW toss play, I would hope his fake is good enough to count as a block and then use the WB to block inside - either OLB or S.  Thoughts?

Also, is it worth having Blast and Stretch in the play call?  I've got 5 ADHD kids on my team and I'm wanting to make things as simple as possible.  Seems like you could just use 26 & 18.  Am I missing something?

I'm really enjoying exploring this offense and think it could be a good fit for our team.

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I think you can run it the best way it fits into what you what to do with it. You can say 18 Blast and still accomplish the same thing. You can run it like a power and have your QB naked off the corner play. When I block something I just want it to be sound regardless of what the defense does and that was the thinking behind blast. Show the same scheme regardless so that the defense doesn't know it is stretch or blast and be able to run both plays regardless and that is what it does. I'm not playing a guessing game with the Corner and as to when I think I can run Naked or not based on what I think he is doing. The Blast as designed allows you to run both holes within the same scheme and that is what I wanted to accomplish with it. If I want to just pound and have the QB occupy the corner for the hell of I would run power which is basically the same scheme in the DW. You can do the same thing and hope that maybe the stretch will help out if the corner forgets his responsibility or is weak anyway and can't tackle the QB. I'm running the Pistol to utilize the QB the same as my other running backs, so in my thinking my scheme will provide the blocking to utilize his running ability as well. If you really don't worry about utilizing the QB as much, just run the power and call his number when you feel the corner is not playing his position.

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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 07:29:52 PM »
If I get the kids I think I will get then I am running this as Pistol. 

Here are my thoughts and please don't hesitate to pick them apart.  There are lots smarter football coaches on here than me :)

I would think 26 Blast is to be a quick hitter, and I am not sure I am gaining a ton by having 26 Blast and 26 Power.  In other words, I don't know that I would recognize when to make the change with the WB blocking.

I do see value in a Blast/Power series and a Belly series.  In Belly the QB would ride the exchange much harder, really trying to compress the defense.  Blast would be more of a quick handoff, like in your install video.

Maybe 26 Blast, 26 Belly, and Belly Right 18 Sweep, or Blast Right 18 Sweep.  This would indicate the desired HB action but still name the ball carrier and hole. 

Does this seem sound to you?


OK....I just saw the thread introducing the Power series and after a quick perusal, Power looks like Belly to me, correct?

You are fine in how you want to approach it and should utilize the system the way it will benefit you the most. Blast and Power are not the same. Power is the Pistol's version of the DW power. Blast is combination of Power and running to the perimeter at the same time using the same scheme to do it. It attacks two places at the same time which the Power can't do. The WB block on the Corner is the biggest difference.  I think the power has its place for pound and ground. But, The Blast allows you to run the Off/Tackle and perimeter at the same time without guessing as to what the corner is doing and with the same scheme. In the same respect, you mention belly. Sounds good to me. The ride between the QB and TB is supposed to be a belly ride. That is something that the video doesn't mention enough yet. That was the second time I had those kids run Pistol. And that is a critical element between the QB and TB. It is a progression that takes time. There will be two other segments off the short video I did. You will see that we had to move the QB to 3 1/2 yds so that the belly action started working. It's all about the timing. At the HS 4 and 6 yds worked great. To achieve the Belly look the QB needs to start out at 3 1/2 yds at the youth level. What is great is that you see the potential in the Pistol!

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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 07:54:30 PM »
Thanks Coach,

What I'm loving about this scheme is that it can start so very basic but has the building blocks to become anything a coach and his team can handle.  Great stuff.

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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2012, 07:59:05 PM »
I even have the QB mechanics in a brief manual if you want it for Pistol and UTC

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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2012, 11:13:40 PM »
Thanks Coach,

What I'm loving about this scheme is that it can start so very basic but has the building blocks to become anything a coach and his team can handle.  Great stuff.

This was what me and Coach Cox talk about almost every day when we talk on the phone. He really don't know what he stumbled on. It's a system that you can just run a few plays with or you can really expand to other things. Then you can run a host of plays with 2 blocking schemes. :-)
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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2012, 02:22:23 AM »
Thanks Coach,

What I'm loving about this scheme is that it can start so very basic but has the building blocks to become anything a coach and his team can handle.  Great stuff.

Coach, It's all broken down into a mini playbook with Red I, I RT, I Over, and Cowboy if you are interested?

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Re: Coxbox 'I' Power Pistol install
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2012, 09:29:01 PM »
COX,like the Cowboy,very good stuff, but can the trap be put in the other series or is not really needed.I see something speacial .Either fb,or qb trap off the I-RT,or I-Over.Thoughts?
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