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Offline CoachJJ

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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2012, 03:58:11 PM »
I like the chute

I do see the advantages of the sled, but I would rather have my kids hitting real people real low  ;D

We hit so much that sometimes we need to give our kids a break and hit something that doesnt hit back ... LOL ... besides it is much easier to work on mechanics and technique when the kids arent trying to 'win' the drill ...
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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2012, 04:01:33 PM »
Actually Olinemen are the smarter kids. Lets get that right. HAHA!!! OLINE on 3 Oline on me!!!! OLINE!!!

AMEN !!!
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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2012, 04:54:27 PM »
We do some things differently than other teams, programs, dwers around the globe. Its all good, more than one way to geterdone.

Some of the most important things for our kids...

1) confidence- they must understand what we do and why and they must know their role and what their job is and why it makes the offense click. They have to believe in it. I spend a bunch of time working with my high schoolers in WHY we do what we do. It really does pay off when they ask to call a trap or ask to double team team a certain player...they get it.

2) tenacity- EVEN LESSER ATHLETES CAN KICK SOMEONES BUTT if they know how and when...we give them the skills and know how and the drills create EXPERIENCE in whipping the biggest and baddest...

3) mechanical advantages- the angles, the superior numbers, the element of suprise and the advantages gained by making the jobs SIMPLE ENOUGH that anyone can do it...those things matter too...

4) we believe in drawing things up, walking and talking things through, video teaching aides,  scrimmage vs cones, bags and then thud and then live...building confidence through repetition and doing it progressively always sure that we have enough tools in the tool box to keep the scout defense and its coordinator HONEST....its fun to speak to the kids in the huddle after shouting to "TIMMY" about "what a great play, do it again man!" and then telling my kids "Ok, we are gonna trap Timmy" AND THEY LAUGH.
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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #63 on: March 17, 2012, 12:44:09 PM »
AMEN !!!

I have to say AMEN to all coaches that do everything in their power to develop the skills necessary for their kids to be successful in a game. Obviously, from reading all the different opinions in this post/thread, it seems many coaches have different ways to reach the ultimate goal [solid line play]. Some coaches use sleds, some use bags and it seems everyone has an idea or two about chutes. And, some use hands and some use shoulders. And, without a doubt my OL were the smartest players on my team. They were recognized and rewarded more so than any other position. And, every coach has to develop a Line Progression teaching philosophy that works best for him. For the most part, we always had more linemen recognized at the All-League meetings than we did RB's. That makes sense because it usually means you are winning. I think the OL is the most critical phase in football.
Some say sleds are no good because they don't hit back and are not game realistic. But they are great for technique, strength building, and physical conditioning. You have to work hader on a sled to keep your technique.  Bags don't really hit back either but we all use them. Easy and useful resources for technique builders and progression play and simulators. I'm not a chute guy, but it forces your kids to stay low, building solid low technique. Bottom line: everything has its place if used for the benefits you derive from it.
The new sleds make it so you don't even need chutes because they are built so low to the ground, you have to stay low. I didn't use chutes because my sleds were always marked like a chute, and we redid everything when we were above the mark [chute level].
With that being said, there are a hundred different ways to reach the same goal and a hundred different opinions on how to achieve it!!!!

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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #64 on: March 17, 2012, 01:07:10 PM »
Not sure if I'm stupid or smart but I got tired of lugging around PVC chutes and went to just coaches or dads holding a nylon rope.  It doesn't make any sound but it's easy to tell who isn't staying low and it's easy to throw into the coaches bag.

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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #65 on: March 17, 2012, 01:17:03 PM »
Heard a coach at a clinic say that back when he was playing youth football, they used the guard rail next to the practice field.  He said after you got that in the back a couple of times, you learned to stay low.

I don't think that would go over too well nowadays.
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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2012, 01:40:37 PM »
Heard a coach at a clinic say that back when he was playing youth football, they used the guard rail next to the practice field.  He said after you got that in the back a couple of times, you learned to stay low.

I don't think that would go over too well nowadays.
:) then would crawl out of their stance? lol
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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2012, 05:12:19 AM »
We didn't have the chutes but had 2 coaches hold a sheet at an angle. Get Low, Stay Low! The cheap version!
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Re: OL and the DW
« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2012, 08:50:23 AM »
My coaches held broomsticks

They also had us in a 4 pt stance...at 7/8
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