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Online CoachDavidP

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8-9 year olds
« on: March 06, 2014, 05:32:14 PM »
Hey Paul

You know this defense well enough. Would you run it at the 8-9's level, or would you stick with a Split-6/WT-6 combination (maybe J.O.D). The Pass is rarely a threat and I haven't seen option yet in the 4 years I've been coaching. As much as I want to go Split 4-4, not sure I need to give the player over the TE any pass responsibility at this level? Would love to hear your (and others) thoughts and opinions.
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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 05:41:11 PM »
IMHO

This is the perfect age to install it (JR's Version).  Inverted coverage (No One Behind You). Edge play is near perfect for the Sweeps. 

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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 04:15:06 PM »
Hey Paul

You know this defense well enough. Would you run it at the 8-9's level, or would you stick with a Split-6/WT-6 combination (maybe J.O.D). The Pass is rarely a threat and I haven't seen option yet in the 4 years I've been coaching. As much as I want to go Split 4-4, not sure I need to give the player over the TE any pass responsibility at this level? Would love to hear your (and others) thoughts and opinions.

Split 6/WT6 would be perfect at that age (3rd-4th grade?).  We played a 60 front with the 4th and 5th graders.   As CoachSahd suggests, I would use inverted cover 2 which gives you 9 guys playing the run.  Make sure you put somebody (DT) on the TE to prevent a free inside release.  You will need to use the DEs to help cover the flats. 
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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 06:04:16 PM »
Kinda what I was thinking. Especially being very unsure of what kids we'll have this season.  Only about 7 or 8 returning and not sure what is moving up from our flag team.  Plan for the WT6/Split6 and if we have a special athlete or two than we can change it up if we want to. Thanks for your input.

Shad

I know you run some of Jacks 6-3 as a package.  Do you like the idea of his DE play full time in this defense? PLaying the same Inverted Cover 2 behind it with the safety playing the alley is basically the same, right.  I don't really want to go to his defense, because I want to learn the basics to the 4-4, but so many aspects of his defense meshes well, it looks like.
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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2014, 07:14:09 PM »
Split 6/WT6 would be perfect at that age (3rd-4th grade?).  We played a 60 front with the 4th and 5th graders.   As CoachSahd suggests, I would use inverted cover 2 which gives you 9 guys playing the run.  Make sure you put somebody (DT) on the TE to prevent a free inside release.  You will need to use the DEs to help cover the flats.

If im in  WT6 facing a double tight end set, how do i drill the corner to come up and help support on the sweep? whats his aiming point?

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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 08:44:31 AM »
If im in  WT6 facing a double tight end set, how do i drill the corner to come up and help support on the sweep? whats his aiming point?

In inverted cover 2, the corners alignment against a TE (when the TE is the #1 receiver to that side), is 6 to 8 yards deep and 2 to 3 yards outside.  He is still the widest defender by alignment and has secondary contain.  He fills outside the defensive end.  He plays outside in on the sweep and cannot let the ball get outside of him. 
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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 12:15:35 AM »
If thats the case what type of player should I put at  CB? What are some EDD's to develop the kids at this position?
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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 09:58:23 AM »
The real difference is in End play.  Jacks DE are multiple players with different assignments based on the Call.  JR's are bringing pressure.

I really like what I can do with coverage if I have the right athletes at OSLB in the 4-4. Dont think you will be disappointed either way.  The Inverted Coverage works well for both.   ;)
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Re: 8-9 year olds
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 06:10:22 PM »

If thats the case what type of player should I put at  CB? What are some EDD's to develop the kids at this position?

For 8's and 9's:
1.  Proficient tacklers
2.  Disciplined: don't let anyone behind you and support outside-in after you know it is a run
3.  Fast enough to play man (nice to have)
4.  Good timg and hands - think a good basketball player.


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2. Read drills (run/pass)
3. Open field tackling
4. Various ball drills
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1. Pursuit drill with secondary and LBs (alignment, reads, pursuit angles, zone drop)
2. Pass skeleton vs expected patterns

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