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Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« on: May 08, 2013, 09:23:50 PM »
So I am going to face this on Sunday.


-----------------------------------22
-----------------------------------16
-------------9-------------------------------------------26
28-------------------------O--O--X--O--O-----------------------24
---------------------------E----T-----T-----E
--------------S-----------------M----W----------------R
--CL--------------------------------------------------------------CR
------------------------------------F


22-is their stud. He runs a pitch sweep to either side as well as inside runs. Will throw HB pass to 28 because he can throw longer.
16- is a pugy kid that can throw short passes. Maybe 20 yards as the longest.
28-is the go to WR.  Can go deep.
9- smallish but decent hands.
26 is a big kid that runs the counter. Not very fast but hard to take down.
24- is just out there and never gets the ball. So he is a decoy or blocks.
OL does not pull. tries to zone.

On Defense:

Decent ends and interior line.
My Sam is my stud. Rover is a decent and fast kid but youngish.
MLB and WLB are my two insides. Typical MLB's big but not the fastest.
Clyde is my best corner. Is my QB on offense. Small but sure tackle.
Chris is smallish and young. Was my pee-wee QB and is only 10.
Fred is ball hawk. will run anything down. probably 80% on open field tackles.

This team will run inside and outside bubbles. Outs by inside slots  and seam by outside WR. Hitches by Outside WRs. A few crossing routes by the inside slots.
Runs are limited to 22 on pitch sweeps and some inside dives. The most other than that was a slot running a counter/reverse. No pulling.

Any suggestions??

We are in C3 with MLB's key 22 while OLB's are playing slot to slot. Ends are not letting anything cross their face. Playing games with DT's as well as bringing the linebackers.

John

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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2013, 10:06:35 PM »
John

How wide are the slots? Are they a threat?

Joe
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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2013, 10:27:38 PM »
John

How wide are the slots? Are they a threat?

Joe

Joe,

About 4-5 yards. Neither is a threat.

To me this is 22's show. Shut him down and its over. I am thinking of having the S/R play with outside leverage.

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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 12:01:48 AM »
John

We need to skype, I have a great stunt for you.

Joe
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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 09:24:56 AM »
John

We need to skype, I have a great stunt for you.

Joe

Joe,

What time tonight?
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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 06:53:06 PM »
Joe,

Everything in place including THE stunt. LOL.

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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 10:07:49 AM »
John

Good luck & go gettum.

Joe
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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 06:19:05 PM »
John

Good luck & go gettum.

Joe

Joe ,

We won 29-14. Had a little bumpy start but we did our job.

Thanks,

John

P.S. this week is double wing and wing-t. Its the game. Lol.
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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 09:18:21 AM »
What happen to the dummy proof defense you posted a while ago?
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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 11:51:52 AM »
If u are in cover 3 why are there defenders aligned on the slots?

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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2013, 04:09:09 AM »
For the sake of a thread here’s my try at it  :-[, go to man coverage. Whichever way 22 goes blitz the near OLB (now force player) and roll F to cover open slot. Add in some cover 1 during passing downs by dropping an ILB. A few twists and x stunts, along with base 30% of plays, I would think it’d keep them guessing.

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Re: Pistol 2x2 vs 4-4??
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 10:22:56 AM »
So I am going to face this on Sunday.


-----------------------------------22
-----------------------------------16
-------------9-------------------------------------------26
28-------------------------O--O--X--O--O-----------------------24
---------------------------E----T-----T-----E
--------------S-----------------M----W----------------R
--CL--------------------------------------------------------------CR
------------------------------------F


22-is their stud. He runs a pitch sweep to either side as well as inside runs. Will throw HB pass to 28 because he can throw longer.
16- is a pugy kid that can throw short passes. Maybe 20 yards as the longest.
28-is the go to WR.  Can go deep.
9- smallish but decent hands.
26 is a big kid that runs the counter. Not very fast but hard to take down.
24- is just out there and never gets the ball. So he is a decoy or blocks.
OL does not pull. tries to zone.

On Defense:

Decent ends and interior line.
My Sam is my stud. Rover is a decent and fast kid but youngish.
MLB and WLB are my two insides. Typical MLB's big but not the fastest.
Clyde is my best corner. Is my QB on offense. Small but sure tackle.
Chris is smallish and young. Was my pee-wee QB and is only 10.
Fred is ball hawk. will run anything down. probably 80% on open field tackles.

This team will run inside and outside bubbles. Outs by inside slots  and seam by outside WR. Hitches by Outside WRs. A few crossing routes by the inside slots.
Runs are limited to 22 on pitch sweeps and some inside dives. The most other than that was a slot running a counter/reverse. No pulling.

Any suggestions??

We are in C3 with MLB's key 22 while OLB's are playing slot to slot. Ends are not letting anything cross their face. Playing games with DT's as well as bringing the linebackers.

John



John - GOOD overall adjustment.  This is "general" in nature, but what we had to stop from those teams was "4 verticals".  S & R would need to be able to obstruct the #2 receivers from getting into the "seams" clean!!!  #1 CURL/#2 FLAT (OR "WHEEL")  can ALSO present a problem.  IF they run "zone/read" (which MOST of those teams WE see use) - it requires additional adjustment from the front 6.

Because of the above - we play Cover 1 MAN/FREE vs. this.  I like what Nick Saban says about it:
http://brophyfootball.blogspot.com/2009/10/nick-saban-middle-of-field-safety_08.html
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