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Offline ZACH

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split: cover 1 olb question
« on: April 08, 2013, 11:20:32 AM »
I preface this with ive nit completely read the manual

In this scenarion in cover 1

-----------------0------0
---------------------0-----------0
----------0--0--0--#--0--0-----------0
------9---$---3-------1------5
------c----------b-------b-------$----c
---------------------f

My question if cb has #1 how does the 7 play man if #2 is in the backfield?

Is there an automatic there?
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 12:14:32 PM by ZACH »
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 12:07:53 PM »
your missing a guy on offense.
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 12:15:23 PM »
your missing a guy on offense.

Fixed, thanks!
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 12:54:04 PM »
i call it bench and retreat.   

the 7 tech ends up in a 6 tech or head up on the TE.  he presses the TE and allows himself to back pedal slowly.  if #2 releases then the $ disengages and runs with the #2. 

this is how i understand it and have taught it.  jrtitan is the authority though and may say otherwise.
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 01:14:17 PM »
i call it bench and retreat.   

the 7 tech ends up in a 6 tech or head up on the TE.  he presses the TE and allows himself to back pedal slowly.  if #2 releases then the $ disengages and runs with the #2. 

this is how i understand it and have taught it.  jrtitan is the authority though and may say otherwise.

Seems like an awful tough assignment... 
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 01:56:42 PM »
Watch some of Jr Titans videos.  Actually pretty easy.  But your olbs are good players.
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 02:31:30 PM »
I preface this with ive nit completely read the manual

In this scenarion in cover 1

-----------------0------0
---------------------0-----------0
----------0--0--0--#--0--0-----------0
------9---$---3-------1------5
------c----------b-------b-------$----c
---------------------f

My question if cb has #1 how does the 7 play man if #2 is in the backfield?

Is there an automatic there?

Yes he has number #2 (back out of the backfield).  If the back blocks, he rushes.  No automatic call other than "you have #2 to your side - first back out his side if #2 is in the backfield"
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 02:34:06 PM »
Seems like an awful tough assignment...

What's tough about covering the back out of the backfield from an alignment on the TE?   
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 02:35:57 PM »
i call it bench and retreat.   

the 7 tech ends up in a 6 tech or head up on the TE.  he presses the TE and allows himself to back pedal slowly.  if #2 releases then the $ disengages and runs with the #2. 

this is how i understand it and have taught it.  jrtitan is the authority though and may say otherwise.

That's pretty much it....
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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2017, 12:12:31 PM »
Why not just blitz the $ and have the backer play the back out ?

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Re: split: cover 1 olb question
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2017, 02:17:37 PM »
I preface this with ive nit completely read the manual

In this scenarion in cover 1

-----------------0------0
---------------------0-----------0
----------0--0--0--#--0--0-----------0
------9---$---3-------1------5
------c----------b-------b-------$----c
---------------------f

My question if cb has #1 how does the 7 play man if #2 is in the backfield?

Is there an automatic there?

This is why the Split 4 I played on as a senior in HS would put the DE in the 7 tech in a 3 pt. stance and keep the OLB in a 9, where he could peel with RB out or drop to the flat in zone.  Makes these sort "what ifs" a lot simpler.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2017, 02:25:44 PM by coacharnold »