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GAM defense
« on: September 21, 2015, 05:58:50 PM »
Ok GAM guys I am running GAM first year , I know book says de don't need to be all stars but they run a lot of shotgun and I'm thinking mayb put some speed at de to get in there faster, I already can't bearcrawl but that's only thing I do different. My down four , 3 are big I have a mpp in there tryn to hide him. I have been putting average speed guys at de the few times they get there they are not fast enough just looking for thoughts thanks

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2015, 02:12:48 PM »
When Reed did the gam the spread was not the offense of choice or shot gun.

The 10 defense adapts but rushing 5 sorta.

So pull one A gapper out and add him as a cover cover guy either linebacker or safety depending on talent and play there. Or re structure into dc pro 4-3


Eg - gam ish vs spread

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---------b---------s------------b

10 special vs spread

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2015, 02:30:43 PM »
One thing that happen last week I didn't see Untill I watched film was my b gapper would not charge at all he dropped back like he was a lb and the tackle picked up my de and he never made it to sweep spot. I am replacing him today with a very disciplined kid . If I drop the a gapper back which would not be a lb type player won't that stop my boxing end? I have 2 mpp on my d line that I I can't bear crawl they are getting killed on the line. But they have to play somewhere.

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2015, 02:43:20 PM »
I have been looking into dcpro 43but I'm 2nd year coach this year in more competetive league I installed dw and and gam  first game was 22-0 we did awesome 2nd game we faced a very big spread team that killed us on both sides of ball. Really biggest problem I'm haveing is my olb sometimes have problems find TE and they both play te on offense when they don't pick him up my mlb does but he is out of position and finding good de that will go hard. I really one to figure out wat I can do to help them to be honest I have pretty good athletes I need to figure a way to better coach them where we are weak. I feel like our stronger areas are where I'm stronger where we are weaker I need to be better at coaching them in that area.

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2015, 06:26:31 PM »
They're only mpp bc you Lettem be

Take a whole practice with them and invest, that might help
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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2015, 09:37:08 PM »
One of my mpp it's really not my fault his physical looks like a novel he is allergic to Grass I have to carry an needle thing with me just in case he has a reaction  randm nose bleeds chest pain but he has to play. He is not cut out for it but he does try. So I play him 3 in 2 out

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2015, 08:47:04 AM »
One of the best points Butch Ford brought up to me with this defense is, if you don't have the best you aren't going to do well. If you invest in lesser players and play them they'll grow and contribute.

But I get it, some are harder then others. I rotate almost the entire defense every 5 plays  now because the kids know what to do and have a grasp of fundamentals to contribute, the more they play they learn.

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 07:57:14 AM »
we are using a hybrid GAM/10-1.  we have 2 or 3 MPP on the field at a time, all the time.  a lot of them have come a long way. 

bear crawling is tough.  the idea is great, but if a kid isn't physically tough, they will start to get worn down because they are getting down blocked all day long.  even if they stay in their hole and do their job, it's no fun for them..

we are using two solutions to this. 

1) we have two D lines, and rotate them every 3 or 4 downs.  they are balanced in terms of talent, so they play equally.

2) we shin splint.  this isn't strictly legal in some leagues, but the kids LOVE IT.  we teach them to fire out low on bags.  if they are getting buried crawling, we splint the outside O lineman.  it's actually fun to watch our guys do it and then see the O linemen start to dance around to miss avoid it.  it hurts.

as far as OT/TE plays, they are the GAM's real weakness. your best move is to have your best players at OLB/M backer, and hope to have two of them at the POA.  resist the temptation to invove your DEs here, as a good coach will immediately take advantage of that(boot will kill you if you are not honoring the sweep point)

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 08:02:54 AM »
We are not allowed to bearcrawl or block below waist at all so on my d line I have two big and 2 mpp . Mpp just shoot a gap

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 08:08:04 AM »
can u shin splint?  my guess is not, but you never know.  i'm not sure what else is available if you can't use Gap control techniques in GAM.  for me, the attraction of GAM IS your ability to let MPP kids play all game long and contribute.  I don't love the defense, but we rotate 10 kids through those 4 positions, and 7 or so are MPPs.  But at this point, a lot of them have gotten good at what they do, and I don't even think of them as MPPs anymore.  but honestly, if they had to play straight up without the techniques they are using, I think they'd really struggle.



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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 06:36:06 PM »
If you cant split shins and you can start in a gap you're sol.

My suggestion colts coach 33. Use his slant technique at the least and stunt from any front, 26, 4-0-4, 24.
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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 09:11:11 PM »
We play gap but can't line up over center unless 5 yards back . No blocking below waist at all. I put my 2 mpp only have 2 shoot a gap.  And I rotate one 3 in 2 out. I still have them go from 4 pt stance .

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2015, 10:49:16 PM »
Ok so we made the playoffs and we have to play the shotgun spread team again. I need all the help i can get. They run jet, most everything is off jet  motion. Last time they whipped us good .

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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2015, 11:50:46 PM »
You're going want to get out of gam you may want to teach 26 and blitz into a 5 and 6 man rush...keep an extra safety to play single high. Try and find tiger cat from mountjoy
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Re: GAM defense
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2015, 12:06:47 AM »
Tiger cat
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Now here's what you do

Gap 8
-----0-0-0-#-0-0-0
-1---b--2-3-4-5---a-6
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26
---------------------t---v
-----------x-------------------y
------z---------0-0-#-0-0---------w
-------c--------2-3----4-5---------e
----------b----1-----------6--a
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C has z
B has x
A has flow (back out)
A has y
E has w

No motion the front 6 hit the gaps and edge.
2 n 5 go back
3 and 4 go a
1 and 6 hit the edges

Motion left
1 edge
2 c
3 b
4 right a
5 right b
6 left a
A edge rush
D picks up motion

If you want to keep single high A and D play basic rules , A has his man, D drops into middle whole keying qb

Games:
No mo: 1&2 exchage, 5 and 6 exchange (twist)

0r
2 goes edge
3 goes back
1 goes a

With 5 goes edge
4 goes b
6 goes a

On base rush the 1 and 6 can start at lb depth and walk up or line up on los

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