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Zone vs Man turn
« on: July 13, 2018, 01:53:37 PM »
I know this has been covered here before but my Google fu is failing me. 

Could someone describe the difference between the two turn techniques once the DB have read pass?

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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2018, 07:12:04 PM »
B's

Zone turn is to the QB. Man turn is to the Man.


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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2018, 07:38:41 PM »
Thanks coach.

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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 07:55:14 PM »
B's

The funny thing is some guys teach a Zone turn even if they are in man. If the corner use the shuffle technique for example.


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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 08:04:15 PM »
We’ve been teaching man my entire coaching career, uaslly from the off man alignment with inside leverage.   We’ve always taught the backpedal with the turn to the man. Mostly because that’s what we knew.  I know some might do it differently so that’s why I asked.

This season though there is serious discussion almost the staff about running zone and I wanted to make sure we’re getting the details correct.

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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2018, 08:28:17 PM »
B's

IMHO it's really about what structure you are in. I always learned 1 high always Zone turn, 2 high Man turn.

The new thing is CB's shuffling on the snap from inside leverage to outside leverage then Zone turns.


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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 08:49:44 PM »
That’s extremely helpful.  Here I was thinking we’d have to change our DB technique between cover 1 and cover 3.

Makes it a lot easier on coaches and players to only have to teach/learn one of them. 

Is the shuffle technique you mentioned used with 1 high or 2 high?  Is there an advantage to coaching the shuffle step?

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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2018, 09:01:06 PM »
One coaching point that helped me translate to the kids....

Zone play the play....man play the player.
Collect moments, not wins.

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Re: Zone vs Man turn
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2018, 10:59:37 PM »
B's

It started out the shuffle was for a 1 high structure, but the pattern read & Palm guys have adapted it.

We started using it a awhile back then got away from it, we started using it again this spring. IMHO it's just about getting them moving on the snap. It does present a different picture to the QB.

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