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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2018, 10:28:32 PM »
I know it's a screen and all, but is blocking legal in your league?

I love the one offensive guy who races across the field to the ball with a defender, and then cuts behind the ball so as not to interfere with the tackle.
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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2018, 08:39:19 AM »
I know it's a screen and all, but is blocking legal in your league?

I love the one offensive guy who races across the field to the ball with a defender, and then cuts behind the ball so as not to interfere with the tackle.
If they could block, they wouldn’t bother with screens.
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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2018, 09:46:21 AM »
Have to admit it looks interesting. We’ve been a 46 team
The past two years and were planning on moving to the KB. I’ll be keeping an eye on this.

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As you study up on the KB you will keep seeing this self correct thing.

Every D is going to blow an assignment but this D does self correct saving huge gains. I've seen it happen many times.
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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2018, 12:56:48 AM »
We struggled with a very good team that ran 100% Beast a few weeks ago.

Got down 12-0 at the half. Some scout film would have helped because they were toggling between a 7 man and 8 man blocking surface that was hard to pick up on initially.

So rather than relying on the NG to get his count right with the alignments we took a page out of the KB and played both DE's to the long side regardless....TNT played 404 over the C and flex'd the short side DT in a 2 point stance one yard off the LOS so he could maneuver.

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We made the adjustment at half time and shut them out the rest of the way.

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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2018, 07:07:59 PM »
Any Updates ? Been trying to figure a way to morph these two defenses together and I am excited for this idea. I always loved the 46 odd front and NG play but the coverage, especially against teams that went spread and had a running QB, was a problem.

What is your DE's base alignment. Vs a wing T or flexbone look is your DE aligning inside or head up in the wing and going inside of him ? 46 DE would be outside of the wing getting up field for 2 steps.

When in Green what are the zone responsibilities for each player ?

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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2018, 11:05:09 PM »
Any Updates ? Been trying to figure a way to morph these two defenses together and I am excited for this idea. I always loved the 46 odd front and NG play but the coverage, especially against teams that went spread and had a running QB, was a problem.

What is your DE's base alignment. Vs a wing T or flexbone look is your DE aligning inside or head up in the wing and going inside of him ? 46 DE would be outside of the wing getting up field for 2 steps.

When in Green what are the zone responsibilities for each player ?

It has killed off all Spread Teams but we play a REALLY good one tomorrow night and have a little somethin' somethin' up our sleeves when it comes to the 46 DE.

I will happily update you on Thursday.
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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2018, 01:11:52 PM »
So after some time to let the season sink in a bit I would have to say this experiment is a keeper.

In our Championship game we played the Spread from hell and yielded 3 TD's...two long passes and one short run.

We won by one point.

Last season we ran 2 Defenses.....the KB and the 353 Vs this same opponent running the same Spread from hell.... in the Championship game we gave up 5 TD's and won by 3 points.

I changed to this hybrid 46 just for this particular team. The only failure we had was how we decided to Stone Slots with our DE's. We had 3 kids rotating at DE and only one fully understood his new job.

Vs trips.....play your 46 DE role to the letter....vs a TE play your DE role to the letter. Vs detached twins Maul the Slot inside out and slow play the backfield. It was too much change in a short amount of time. They were pre programmed for one thing and then asked to do other things...it was hit and miss. 

BUT....it fortified how flexible we can be with this D and stay sound. That is what I have been looking for for years.

Starting over with the Super Smurfs this Fall we have been HUGELY successful running the DC46 Lite with the little Dudes. But that time does come when this D begins to crack....say 5th or 6th grade. So we then change Defenses. Now I am confident I can stick with DC46 principles from the 2nd grade thru the 8th grade and just add more tools to the toolbox as the seasons progress.

We can now toggle from Man to Zone vs any formation....fully auto-blitz from 4 positions.....stone with OLB's without leaving MIKE flapping in the wind.....can play taps without leaving Spurs flapping in the wind...have a full compliment of DL stunts so that they never get into a sameness is death situation....no wasted 3rd level Defenders unless you are in some kind of a Prevent....

The only thing left is how MP friendly is this going too be.  Not sure on that one yet. But then again MP's really should be playing on the Offense whenever possible.

Over the summer I will collect some game film together. It you cant wait then here is the link to our entire season less the Championship game. Should be ready in another week or so.

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Re: Our 2018 Spring Football Experiment - 8th graders
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2018, 06:26:00 PM »
One of my favorite plays from Saturdays game....a 60-12 win.

Passing situation. We are in our Cover 6. They slip a Back out for a screen. No one picks it up but using Clark Killer Bee rules of alignments their spacing is excellent allowing them all to self correct and rally to the football for a 7 yard gain and make the Back pay.

https://youtu.be/-_qzSRGvGxo
I like how the (what looks to be corner) took away the outside and turned him inward
I think his number was 37 ?
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