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DCWT BEAST
« on: November 27, 2017, 11:05:19 PM »
Here is the starting point.  If you didn't tell anyone what to do, they'd do this:
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 07:06:18 AM »
I rarely see 3 LBs.  Mostly 2 and sometimes only 1. 

So on Blast, the 3 back is basically following the 1 back to daylight?
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 07:19:17 AM »
If a Defense has filled all of the gaps, does the 1 back, go to the outside cheek on the LT (who's blocking down in his gap) to get to the #3 LB?

I see a ton of Double As with Double Bs in our league, due to it being illegal to line up directly in front of the Center.
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 09:20:10 AM »
Here is the starting point.  If you didn't anyone what to do, they'd do this:


So lets say you had a 4 4 with just the corners at the edges.

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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 11:54:20 AM »
Attach GOL rules to the TE so the the #4 back is never blocking a D-lineman.

This also allows you to shuffle talent even on the fly. Sometimes the bully boy on the D-line is in a position where you match up poorly so you can exchange your players in 3 seconds. The TE should be considered an OLM that can run a route and catch footballs.

My take.
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 12:02:10 PM »
Attach GOL rules to the TE so the the #4 back is never blocking a D-lineman.

This also allows you to shuffle talent even on the fly. Sometimes the bully boy on the D-line is in a position where you match up poorly so you can exchange your players in 3 seconds. The TE should be considered an OLM that can run a route and catch footballs.

My take.
So the middle sniffer and TE would switch assignments?

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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 12:13:57 PM »
So the middle sniffer and TE would switch assignments?

No. Middle always has the KO. If no one shows, climb. #4 back now has options even though Im not sure how he ever gets into the mix from that alignment without motion.  Maybe he isnt that wide? Blast hits FAST.
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2017, 12:22:18 PM »
No. Middle always has the KO. If no one shows, climb. #4 back now has options even though Im not sure how he ever gets into the mix from that alignment without motion.  Maybe he isnt that wide? Blast hits FAST.
The 4 back should always be in motion.

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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2017, 12:40:34 PM »
The 4 back should always be in motion.

I'd have to noodle on that one a bit.

He could motion to the near backer but that only brings the CB closer to the POA.
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2017, 12:49:36 PM »
I'd have to noodle on that one a bit.

He could motion to the near backer but that only brings the CB closer to the POA.
It the same thing that happens in the DCWT.

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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2017, 12:52:47 PM »
Attach GOL rules to the TE so the the #4 back is never blocking a D-lineman.

This also allows you to shuffle talent even on the fly. Sometimes the bully boy on the D-line is in a position where you match up poorly so you can exchange your players in 3 seconds. The TE should be considered an OLM that can run a route and catch footballs.

My take.

You would HAVE to
Under that original scheme any DL aligned on the outside shoulder of the PT would be unblocked
Hes tight enough to easily make a tackle on blast
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2017, 12:57:34 PM »
It the same thing that happens in the DCWT.

That might be the issue. Beast and DCWT are two completely different philosophies.
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2017, 12:59:10 PM »
You would HAVE to
Under that original scheme any DL aligned on the outside shoulder of the PT would be unblocked
Hes tight enough to easily make a tackle on blast

Agreed. Plus I wouldn't want my WB tasked with taking on a DT in an unlimited weight league. That would get ugly....fast.
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2017, 01:06:14 PM »
That might be the issue. Beast and DCWT are two completely different philosophies.

That's why I took a back seat on this conversation. I started by applying DW principles to Beast. Block down, kick out. That was as far as I could take it before things got "weird".
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Re: DCWT BEAST
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2017, 01:10:49 PM »
That's why I took a back seat on this conversation. I started by applying DW principles to Beast. Block down, kick out. That was as far as I could take it before things got "weird".

Beast really needs to be a stand alone with common blocking rules because things will forever get weird.

Some of the things you and I see....a head scratch'r for sure and half the time you really cant say the D is doing wrong.

Same thing applies to all of the traditional SW teams. The Defense will do weird things.
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