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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 02:35:57 PM »
This is what we are seeing (sorry for the delay). 

                        F

C                                                  C
       Ba     W           M
           Bu   T      N       H      S   
SE           T  G  C  G  T     TE   
                       Q                             W

                 H
                       F

This is according to the manual and to what I see on film.   By the book, they should put there "(H)ammer" end in the nasty split and kick "(s)pur" into the D gap.

"Zone Pass Right"
Certainly "Left 32 Trap"

You can run "20 Midline" with C and RG double teaming N.  LG fans T.  LT and HB on W.  WB and TE on M (or put TE on FS as FB is almost guaranteed to run "21").  Practice moving N back into M's way or get center to come off N to M.  This is money in the back unless their Jimmy's are better than your Joe's.

Jr. Titan often has RT block out on H and TE fold to M.  Run it as "24 Fold Fly" (use "Fly" to have WB run off the corner.  Now FS must make the tackle.).
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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 02:45:05 PM »
Thoughts on having the TE read for Hammer in the split and blocking down when he sees it?  This would leave Mike free though....

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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 04:11:21 PM »
Vs even defenses or when they even (5.5 players a side) i go un balanced, lots if overs and ons, my fave slot on super jet 25 power;)
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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 06:08:00 PM »
Jr. Titan often has RT block out on H and TE fold to M.  Run it as "24 Fold Fly" (use "Fly" to have WB run off the corner.  Now FS must make the tackle.).

From a nasty split, it may be too far for the TE to get to Mike.
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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 06:25:11 PM »
Thoughts on having the TE read for Hammer in the split and blocking down when he sees it?  This would leave Mike free though....

Read for Hammer?  which play?  I agree that Mike is in a tough spot.  The front side is in a WT6 look.  The backside should actually be in a Split look with the N in a 3 tech and Will in a 20 tech.  Depending on the split of the guards, the N and T may line head up to inside shade.  We would give them a "fingertip" rule and tell them they need to be split no more than fingertip apart sp they can control the A gaps.

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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2011, 08:27:41 AM »
I am telling you .... wedge em. Do that until they stop you, and then you'll get the outside back and even 25/26.

I have seen a bunch of 4-4's in the last two years and you can run up the middle.
20 midline has been suggested and it works from experience as well.

They are giving you the middle, if you don't take it ... well...there's always next week.
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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 11:20:06 AM »
We ended up playing this team last week.  Won 19-12.  We ran Slot 47 Toss for massive gains.  We also had 2 TDs called back for mystery calls (home field of opponent).  I cannot figure out why refs do not know that you can block in the back in the box if you start in the box....frustrating. 

LT down to T
Both Gs pull
FB to Buck
HB to Bandit
SE to S

That left their Will and C to make the tackle vs both Guards and the leading QB.  Our WB had a huge day.  I seriously called this play over and over again (never twice in a row) and they just refused to adjust.    We threw in slot zone pass left to keep them honest here and then.

The team we played was undefeated too had not been challenged all year.

We're 5-0 now going into week 6.  We were 2-6 last year.

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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 03:14:29 PM »
We ended up playing this team last week.  Won 19-12.  We ran Slot 47 Toss for massive gains.  We also had 2 TDs called back for mystery calls (home field of opponent).  I cannot figure out why refs do not know that you can block in the back in the box if you start in the box....frustrating. 

LT down to T
Both Gs pull
FB to Buck
HB to Bandit
SE to S

That left their Will and C to make the tackle vs both Guards and the leading QB.  Our WB had a huge day.  I seriously called this play over and over again (never twice in a row) and they just refused to adjust.    We threw in slot zone pass left to keep them honest here and then.

Any other plays work?


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The team we played was undefeated too had not been challenged all year.

We're 5-0 now going into week 6.  We were 2-6 last year.

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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 03:33:14 PM »
Busted up the middle with LEFT 32 Trap a time or two.  Our FB was taken out with a concussion on the first play from scrimmage, so we tended to stay outside.  They had filmed our previous game and made an effort to shut down the middle running game and played a deep zone to take away the passes.

I've learned that there are three pieces to the offense:

1) Inside running
2) Outside running
3) Passing

A good opponent can take two away, but not all three.  The key is finding the one that is open and exploiting it to either move the ball at will, or force them to change behavior.  Ergo, SLOT 47 TOSS.   Was not my game plan, but it worked.  I'll take the W.

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Re: DCWT v Split 4-4
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2011, 08:33:38 AM »
I've learned that there are three pieces to the offense:

1) Inside running
2) Outside running
3) Passing

A good opponent can take two away, but not all three.

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