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Offline Red11

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Game Film from our last game!
« on: October 07, 2011, 04:19:57 PM »
Afternoon Coaches,

Finally got some footage of one of our games...this was actually recorded by the other team but we won 25-6 so you can see plenty of our offense  :D



We are the team in Red...any and all feeback welcome, thanks!!

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Re: Game Film from our last game!
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 04:41:28 PM »
Love that 47 speed on the first drive.

Your SE looks to be way too wide though.

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Re: Game Film from our last game!
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 05:34:43 PM »
I love seeing this offense work with the older players. It is very fun to watch. I agree though that your SE is too wide. Also, the SE and TE are blocking the man on them and not the nearest deepest defender. The OLB doesn't even look at your SE because his route doesn't take him there. I love the intensity of your FB.  8)

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Re: Game Film from our last game!
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 07:55:22 PM »
I had to leave the room and wait for my head to stop spinning.  That cameraman had me DIZZY!  :P

Yes.  Everyone is correct.  The SE is wa-aaaay too far out.  But someone taught him to stalk block well.

Still, it's a waste of a player to do that to an SE.  He gets in the way of your "47 Speed" play, you can't throw to him, you can't run "57 Power Screen",  "Fake speed 56 Reverse", "Left 56 Sweep", "Left 58 Power" or even "Quick Hitch and Lateral".  I'll bet you can find a play for him.  Suppose he was your own son?   Because he's somebody's.  :(

I usually run an extra point play to a dufus at SE.  If he fumbles, he doesn't ruin your drive.  And, if he fumbles after crossing the goal line, he scored.  :)

Your TE "nasty split" looks to be a little too big.  However, it worked in your favor because they put their DE inside the TE and the FB just ran around him.  I've never seen a team do that before.  I've seen them put LBer's in the gap and DT's but never a DE.  Who was covering the outside?  The "Invisible Man"?

At 10:48 you run SPW.  I can see the QB's jersey # (12).  That shouldn't happen.  HB is on QB's left shoulder, WB is on QB's right shoulder, and FB is behind QB with one hand on HB and one on WB.  They get behind and tackle the QB because of this.  And tell those guys to PUSH!

Loved that "33 Quick" that scored!   :)

On defense, you're using "soft" man coverage.  That's why all their deep receivers were wide open.  "Soft" coverage is for HS players and above and requires the corner to look at the opposition's goal post.  Few kids can learn it.

And your NG is chasing the play.  Count how many tackles he makes doing that.  Drive!  Drive!  Drive!  Start the WAR with the center.  Somebody did.  I saw three fumbles (I think a Black kid was at Nick then.).
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Re: Game Film from our last game!
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 09:34:06 PM »
I had to leave the room and wait for my head to stop spinning.  That cameraman had me DIZZY!  :P

Yes.  Everyone is correct.  The SE is wa-aaaay too far out.  But someone taught him to stalk block well.

Still, it's a waste of a player to do that to an SE.  He gets in the way of your "47 Speed" play, you can't throw to him, you can't run "57 Power Screen",  "Fake speed 56 Reverse", "Left 56 Sweep", "Left 58 Power" or even "Quick Hitch and Lateral".  I'll bet you can find a play for him.  Suppose he was your own son?   Because he's somebody's.  :(

I usually run an extra point play to a dufus at SE.  If he fumbles, he doesn't ruin your drive.  And, if he fumbles after crossing the goal line, he scored.  :)

I agree %100 coach...and i have felt like our SE has been a wasted player...we havent thrown to him on anything but a pass left extra point and i haven't been able to put in 56 yet.  but he definitley isnt a dufus player lol...he's fast with nice hands.

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Your TE "nasty split" looks to be a little too big.  However, it worked in your favor because they put their DE inside the TE and the FB just ran around him.  I've never seen a team do that before.  I've seen them put LBer's in the gap and DT's but never a DE.  Who was covering the outside?  The "Invisible Man"?
Lol well, ya'll would have killed me if you would have seen it the first game! lol....but i shortened it to what you saw in the vid....And yea every team so far has played us with their DE inside the nasty...do you still recommend i shorten more?

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At 10:48 you run SPW.  I can see the QB's jersey # (12).  That shouldn't happen.  HB is on QB's left shoulder, WB is on QB's right shoulder, and FB is behind QB with one hand on HB and one on WB.  They get behind and tackle the QB because of this.  And tell those guys to PUSH!

Yea i changed that because i was scared the refs would call "assisting the runner"...i got some phantom calls called on my last year running Cisars SW so i was a little weary about the FB doing that


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Loved that "33 Quick" that scored!   :)

Thanks :)

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On defense, you're using "soft" man coverage.  That's why all their deep receivers were wide open.  "Soft" coverage is for HS players and above and requires the corner to look at the opposition's goal post.  Few kids can learn it.

And your NG is chasing the play.  Count how many tackles he makes doing that.  Drive!  Drive!  Drive!  Start the WAR with the center.  Somebody did.  I saw three fumbles (I think a Black kid was at Nick then.).

Haha thanks coach, but im just the OC...but the DC actually switched to a zone for tomorrows game...so we'll se how that works out


This is why i love this board...let's me get better everyday....thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Game Film from our last game!
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 11:32:47 PM »
I agree %100 coach...and i have felt like our SE has been a wasted player...we havent thrown to him on anything but a pass left extra point and i haven't been able to put in 56 yet. But that is the HC...im the OC, and he keeps wanting to widen out so i'll have im in the right spot and the HC will tell him to widen out :/ but he definitley isnt a dufus player lol...he's fast with nice hands.

Your HC is influenced, like most of us, by TV.  In the original "T" the SE was split out, not as a receiver,  but as a blocker on a safety.  He was widened to about the same distance from the ball as the safety - or about 10 yards - to create a 45 degree run blocking angle and to meet the safety "halfway". 

Someone later got the idea that, if they widened the SE even further, they forced the corner into "one on one" coverage down the sideline.  So if your SE was:

1) faster than the corner and
2) able to catch and
3) your QB could hit him then

Touchdown!

None of those factors usually exist in youth ball and you must have ALL THREE to make it work.  And, once you line him up wider, you lose him as a blocker on the safety. For this reason, you very seldom see a Navy SE running down the sideline for a pass.  He seldom has the required three abilities but is required to block a safety.  In fact, most NCAA QB's can't hit this receiver either. If you watch a college game with a second rate QB, he might throw to a WR (SE) three times in a game and complete one or none.  But a GREAT college QB will throw to his outside #1 WR as many times as he does to any other receiver. 

So, when your HC lines up your SE like this, he's saying he has a future NFL QB and a future NFL SE.

He's living in TV Land.

So who picked the offense?  You or him?  If him, it's hard to believe he read past page 10.

If you, let him read it to page 10.       



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Lol well, ya'll would have killed me if you would have seen it the first game! lol....but i shortened it to what you saw in the vid....And yea every team so far has played us with their DE inside the nasty...do you still recommend i shorten more?

No.  I'd say if they're that stupid, keep up the good work!   :D


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Yea i changed that because i was scared the refs would call "assisting the runner"...i got some phantom calls called on my last year running Cisars SW so i was a little weary about the FB doing that

I show the refs the play just before the game and tell them it will be the first play I run so they can see it for themselves right then and there and see "no assisting".  By running it as my first play I also see how many yards it will get me when I need it.





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Haha thanks coach, but im just the OC...but the DC actually switched to a zone for tomorrows game...so we'll se how that works out

Are the DC and HC brothers by any chance?   ::)


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