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Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:33:02 PM »
Anyone ever try this?

B back moved back deeper.  A back goes in motion and kicks out DE.  B Back back runs power probably by handoff  as normal.  Also toss to the B back wide with A back motion and leading out.

A is left wing
B is fullback
C is right wing

Thoughts?

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 07:03:15 PM »
Anyone ever try this?

B back moved back deeper.  A back goes in motion and kicks out DE.  B Back back runs power probably by handoff  as normal.  Also toss to the B back wide with A back motion and leading out.

A is left wing
B is fullback
C is right wing

Thoughts?

Hmmm.  Thinking....

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 07:04:19 PM »
If the B-Back is moved deeper, is the A-Back's motion in front or behind the B-Back?

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2017, 07:40:29 PM »
Have you been watching Georgia Tech?

The version they run the A back Kicks & the C back folds. No pull by the ASG, the B Gap is only a 1/2 step deeper, & the QB reverse pivots. All the Wing T guys call it a version of Belly.

The Toss to the B Back they like with X over.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2017, 07:51:58 PM »
I was thinking in front.  Just snap it when passing the QB.  Keep it close to the line.  I was also going to have toss to B with A back leading on a outside play.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2017, 07:52:51 PM »
along with Blast to the B back with A back running option fake.  3 plays so far out of that formation.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2017, 10:17:40 PM »
I'm confused on what your asking . Im very familiar with Georgia Tech system and all the Service Academy's what series of plays are you interested in ?
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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 07:10:49 AM »
From double wing super power, switching the assignments of the A and B back.  Back runs power, A back does kick out.  The formation changed so the B back is around 4 yards behind QB.  A back goes in motion and he kicks out the end instead of the B back.  The B Back runs power.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2017, 07:50:44 AM »
Why? What does it offer that other plays don't? There are plenty of fb running plays in the offense already.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2017, 09:17:00 AM »
Why? What does it offer that other plays don't? There are plenty of fb running plays in the offense already.

Not for us.  We just run Trap and Wedge.  And since our Fullback is our fastest Back, I'm considering doing this.  But I've got to see how much it changes our formation to make it work.  If it's too big of a tell, then I doubt it'll work for us.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2017, 09:57:50 AM »
Not for us.  We just run Trap and Wedge.  And since our Fullback is our fastest Back, I'm considering doing this.  But I've got to see how much it changes our formation to make it work.  If it's too big of a tell, then I doubt it'll work for us.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2017, 01:19:37 PM »
Coach Potter,
Have you tried the G play (or DOG) for your Fullback? I've run it and seen other programs run it with big success when having a really great runner at fullback.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2017, 02:32:23 PM »
Coach Potter,
Have you tried the G play (or DOG) for your Fullback? I've run it and seen other programs run it with big success when having a really great runner at fullback.
That was exactly what I was going to suggest to Dave. DOG is a great play.

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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2017, 03:36:55 PM »
Anyone ever try this?

B back moved back deeper.  A back goes in motion and kicks out DE.  B Back back runs power probably by handoff  as normal.  Also toss to the B back wide with A back motion and leading out.

A is left wing
B is fullback
C is right wing

Thoughts?

This is how we originally installed the Double Wing offense back in 2006.
The first game we ran this the FB ran for 247 yards. It was a week 3 installation after we found that our Bone offense wasn't being effective enough. We had 4 plays from this. Power, Wing Jet Sweep, Counter and Waggle. As the season went on we added more.
He finished the season with over 1500 yards.
The FB is still playing in the NFL.

We set him 6 yards deep and had the Wing motion flat across behind the LOS. We snapped the ball just as he passed the Center. Defense had to think that it may have been Jet. The motion wing was supposed to do the kick out block.

Leo Hand has a paperback book on this type of offense: "101 Aceback Bunch plays"
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Re: Power from B Back with A back Kickout
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 07:46:26 AM »
Jet motion probably would hold the end in youth ball regardless of whether you kick him out or not.