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Offline Bob Goodman

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drills for LBs & Ss behind the box
« on: April 08, 2018, 10:55:59 PM »
What really hurts us is quality LB'rs that sit then spike. There are a few teams we played on a regular basis that figured this out. Align a bit deeper sit and read then attack. More times than not they come in behind our blocking at an angle untouched.
How does one drill this for players in the middle of the defense at 2nd & 3rd level?  How do they learn to read quickly & react within a sea of blockers who might be coming at them from some unanticipated angle?

DumCoach has put an emphasis on teaching inexperienced players where to look before & at the snap -- mostly to keep them from looking at the wrong thing.  How much does that ease their task after the snap?

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Re: drills for LBs & Ss behind the box
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 10:16:24 AM »
How does one drill this for players in the middle of the defense at 2nd & 3rd level?  How do they learn to read quickly & react within a sea of blockers who might be coming at them from some unanticipated angle?

DumCoach has put an emphasis on teaching inexperienced players where to look before & at the snap -- mostly to keep them from looking at the wrong thing.  How much does that ease their task after the snap?
I can tell you how we do but have no idea if it will apply to what your talking about Bob i think this is something that is very much dependent on Scheme and how you want to play with your safety....
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Re: drills for LBs & Ss behind the box
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2018, 10:34:15 AM »
R.e.s.o changed my entire defense on install.

Its not a cure all but makes an impact very quickly and with less install time

Just like anything else gotta drill
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Re: drills for LBs & Ss behind the box
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2018, 11:03:55 AM »
a sea of blockers who might be coming at them

Not on any team we've ever played.
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Re: drills for LBs & Ss behind the box
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2018, 03:02:56 PM »
How does one drill this for players in the middle of the defense at 2nd & 3rd level?  How do they learn to read quickly & react within a sea of blockers who might be coming at them from some unanticipated angle?

DumCoach has put an emphasis on teaching inexperienced players where to look before & at the snap -- mostly to keep them from looking at the wrong thing.  How much does that ease their task after the snap?

Not sure how to drill the 3rd level anymore. About 7 seasons ago we decided any third level defender was a waste a of a perfectly good player. Its is rare we use any high Safety (s).  I dont consider a CB 3rd level.

For LB'rs like Zach stated....reading eyes on you is very helpful. Also teaching your LB'rs to play what us Dumcoach Minions call Cousins. That works very well IF you can keep you LB'rs clean. Like Tito suggested...its scheme driven.

Even when I am teaching 30 fronts my TNT positions are occupiers first rather than gap controllers. Their job is to get doubled. This allows the LB'rs to play Cousins....meaning near LB'r fills fast outside arm free funneling the football to his "Cousin" at MLB or spilling to his "Cousin" at DB or Spur.

So if we are playing a 50 front we are looking to funnel. A 30 front we are looking to spill.  By Rule some formations allow us to play a wide 9 or two in our 30 front so its becomes a mixture. In our 50 front I can pull a wide 9 or two off the LOS. It is all predicated off if we want to funnel or spill. A slow power team we want to spill...and fast perimeter team we want to funnel.

I am not a fan of even fronts so you will have to ask others about that. But it all starts with which philosophy you like for your front. Pure Gap control or occupiers.

Successful "Spiking" vs mega splits is coming from the away Lb'r(s) that play CBR. But they have to getty up exposing themselves to....CBR.

To drill this is to set up drills that trains a wide 9, the LB'rs and DB's at the same time. These positions must work in unison. Then run machine gun actions at them using no football. No football trains then to do their job and only their job.

Its one of the reasons I have drifted away from true "Indy" periods and run more all hands type drilling especially on the Defense. Defense is all about being in the right place at the right time....not easy if you are teaching your groups separately for any length of time.

So...my question is....why on Gods Green Earth would you ever want to take even 5 minutes to drill only the middle of your defense? That can be accomplished using the perimeter players in your drill. The only difference being pre snap and post snap reads.

Balls AT....fill fast flow....Balls AWAY... sit for CBR then fast flow.
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Re: drills for LBs & Ss behind the box
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2018, 09:07:20 AM »
Instinct play is so important at 2nd n 3rd level.

Drills help, i like using drills the "handicap" the defense. Eg. Oklahoma....3v2 oklahoma...3v1 sweep drill.

Vision drills like tilted bags i use for zone running. DC's  "sniff farts" cue...

Pre snap alignment and awareness helps a lot. If im a mike and i know i have an open B on one side and open A on the other, action toward either side should bring me through there or over the top.  If i am playing safety and i drop and see the ball move im looking for daylight as thats likely where this runner will end up, dont shoot until you see ball obviously (another key coaching point).

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