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How do you stop or slow down the off tackle play?
« on: September 13, 2011, 02:01:10 PM »
We run a 5-4, team we are playing runs out of the I and attacks both off tackle holes and will sweep now and then, and if the off tackle is clogged, they bounce it outside.

Not very fast backs, but pretty big backs, maybe 5-8 pounds under our weight limit, so they are big.  They just ground it out but I want to stop them at the LOS or behind the LOS.  The do a few FB dive plays, but the are off tackle 90% of the time, mostly to their right.

Any thoughts?

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Re: How do you stop or slow down the off tackle play?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 02:43:14 PM »
Out the 5-4, we played a team that is heavy off tackle this past weekend.  We stopped them cold.  How we did it was we taught our ends to squeeze down on the play.  They can't get too far up field or too wide,  Attack the outside shoulder of the tight end or tackle.  And in addition, with our interior linemen, we would slant strong side, which puts a d-tackle in the strong side c-gap.  They have to take a tight slant through the tackle's outside shoulder,  Can't loop out.  if you're going to play it as I described, you really need to stress to your outside linebackers to play on the outside shoulder of the end and they have contain. 

If you're not comfortable doing the above, just make sure you don't get your ends more than two yards across the LOS and that you slant your d-line on every play.  At least one of the c-gaps will have a tackle in it every play.

Beyond that, We have a WT6 adjustment to match up with double tight end teams that are beating us off tackle.  If neither of those stop off tackle, then you're just outmanned.  It happens.

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Re: How do you stop or slow down the off tackle play?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 02:48:32 PM »
We run a 5-4, team we are playing runs out of the I and attacks both off tackle holes and will sweep now and then, and if the off tackle is clogged, they bounce it outside.

Not very fast backs, but pretty big backs, maybe 5-8 pounds under our weight limit, so they are big.  They just ground it out but I want to stop them at the LOS or behind the LOS.  The do a few FB dive plays, but the are off tackle 90% of the time, mostly to their right.

Any thoughts?
I would add that the 5-4 doesn't lend itself to big plays for losses.  It's a gap solid defense that leaves you one more backer then any other defense.  Designed to string runs out and let linebackers clean up.  You can gamble and crash your ends, try and disrupt them in the backfield, but you run the risk of them getting outside.

I suppose you could pretend one of your inside backers is a safety and blitz him through the c-gap you're not slanting to.

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Re: How do you stop or slow down the off tackle play?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 05:34:07 PM »
I ran 3-4 . Leaving my outside Linebackers on the line as if they were going to blitz, but they didnt they stayed home. the D-end would take the inside of the tightend or the outside of the farthest man on weak side (most of the time its a tackle) and jus push over the line to draw to open the off tackle run but your Lineback is still there waiting.. so in a sence jus line your outside backs directly behind your tackels 1 yrd. and tell them to stay home and keep thier heads on swivel

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Re: How do you stop or slow down the off tackle play?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2011, 07:57:37 PM »
We run a 5-4, team we are playing runs out of the I and attacks both off tackle holes and will sweep now and then, and if the off tackle is clogged, they bounce it outside.

Not very fast backs, but pretty big backs, maybe 5-8 pounds under our weight limit, so they are big.  They just ground it out but I want to stop them at the LOS or behind the LOS.  The do a few FB dive plays, but the are off tackle 90% of the time, mostly to their right.

Any thoughts?
you do this by creating alignment where they cannot block everybody at that point.
ex. vs flanker te alignment.  I have a 3, 7 tech to the strongside with 50 backer and ss outside the te in a support.....
If the offense can get wide they are in buisness but running off tackle is nearly impossible... I have more defenders for the off tackle play, better athletes at the point of attack than the offense. if the offense doubles anybody, I have 2 unblocked defenders.......
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Re: How do you stop or slow down the off tackle play?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 11:07:39 PM »
We run a 5-4, team we are playing runs out of the I and attacks both off tackle holes and will sweep now and then, and if the off tackle is clogged, they bounce it outside.

Not very fast backs, but pretty big backs, maybe 5-8 pounds under our weight limit, so they are big.  They just ground it out but I want to stop them at the LOS or behind the LOS.  The do a few FB dive plays, but the are off tackle 90% of the time, mostly to their right.

Any thoughts?
Move your DT's to the 5 tech. A lot of people say that's setting you up for the wedge or the trap, but you can always blitz the middle or move the kids back.
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