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Offline acsmith7062

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Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« on: October 03, 2018, 03:02:41 PM »
We play a team on Saturday with a very talented and fast RB that also has a wicked stiff-arm that he uses in the open field.  Due to scheduling conflicts, we only have one practice to get ready for them.  What technique(s) should I concentrate on with my LBs and DBs to get them ready to play against him?

These are 3rd graders.  Thanks in advance for any responses!

Chad   
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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2018, 03:37:54 PM »
We play a team on Saturday with a very talented and fast RB that also has a wicked stiff-arm that he uses in the open field.

How tall is he?  If your tacklers come in low enough, then they can't be reached with a stiff arm.
If they can't get low enough, hitting him harder than he hits them will usually work.

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2018, 03:39:06 PM »
Dont give him space- funnel him between player or sideline

He cant stiff arm more than 1 at a time, so get a lot of guys on him.

Ide just focus on team pursuit,  no only will it stop "Bo knows pee wee football" , it will also help your team in the future.

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2018, 04:02:02 PM »
Thanks DP and Zach.  My kids already tackle low and hard, and pursue better than anyone in the league.  I will just keep reminding them to be aggressive and play like we already know how to play.
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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2018, 04:16:08 PM »
Part of tackling is getting a hold on the runner, no?  If he is extending his arm to ward off tacklers, then he is also extending a body part that can be grabbed.  Use his force against him and grab his forearm when he tries to stiff arm.  Then pull the rest of him in.  Engage tractor beam.  8)

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2018, 06:10:22 PM »
Part of tackling is getting a hold on the runner, no?  If he is extending his arm to ward off tacklers, then he is also extending a body part that can be grabbed.  Use his force against him and grab his forearm when he tries to stiff arm.  Then pull the rest of him in.  Engage tractor beam.  8)

Just had this discussion yesterday. Was watching one of our teams practice and in a tackling drill a runner threw a decent stiff arm. I told the tackler to just grab the arm and pull down. Sure enough, next rep, the tackler made the play.
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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2018, 11:29:39 PM »
I like the suggestion of grabbing the arm since he is offering it.  But, I worry that if show that technique to all my players, with only one practice to implement it, my kids will "slow down" in an effort to do it instead of tackling hard and low.  I think I will only show this technique to my MLB and FS, who are my best defensive players, and football IQ high enough to only implement it if needed (not to mention the most likely guys to meet him one-on-one in the open field).
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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2018, 10:38:29 AM »
Well, your kids still need to be in position to make the tackle and do so aggressively, so I would focus on that as it works across all ball carriers.  You can incorporate the grabbing of the arm as merely another tool once they are in position to make an aggressive tackle. 

The best stiff-arms are the ones where a defender is not quite in position or balanced and the runner essentially pushes them to the ground.  Had a kid a couple of years ago who was a natural at it.  On one play, he switched hands with the ball as he cut back across the field and gave 3 separate stiff arms on his way to a TD. 

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2018, 09:41:30 AM »
Just wondering what style this wicked stiff arm is.  Is it a true stiff-arm, delivered w a locked elbow?  Or is it a "fend", a push-off by extension of the elbow?

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2018, 11:25:34 AM »
True stiff-arm.  Locked elbow with shoulder leaned into it.  Aimed at the defenders face mask.
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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 12:34:00 AM »
Thanks for the advice.  He never crossed the LOS.  We stoned him with bodies and pursuit......he didn't want the ball anymore!
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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 11:38:24 PM »
Thanks for the advice.  He never crossed the LOS.  We stoned him with bodies and pursuit......he didn't want the ball anymore!

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2018, 02:24:42 AM »
How tall is he?  If your tacklers come in low enough, then they can't be reached with a stiff arm.
If they can't get low enough, hitting him harder than he hits them will usually work.

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Another high-jacked thread by me.  In my DCWT, the FB is taught to use a stiff arm.  He will use a locked elbow, thumb pointed down.  However, he's not taught to use the stiff arm to hold the defender away even though this works very well with a high helmet.  Instead, I taught him to use it to push himself away from the defender.   This is done to counter a very low helmet (Which Dave describes.).  Push down on the low helmet to retain balance while moving the feet away.  The odds are the low helmet defender cannot stay on his feet and face plants. 

In regards to others tackling him by the arm  - Yes.  I've seen it done to my FB's exactly ONCE.  It worked but he still ran for 3 more yards.  He was the only defender I ever saw try it.  I think they have to be told or else they will practice their repped technique. 

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2018, 04:58:19 PM »
Does anyone teach their guys to chop the arm of the stiff arm?  (forearm to forearm contact)

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Re: Technique to Defeat a Stiff-Arm
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2018, 05:12:45 PM »
Just my Humble opinion but, Mr Henry tied the NFL record for longest run from scrimmage.  Unlike Dorsett, who ran away from everyone after 15 yards, Henry stiff armed his way down field one Piss Poor Tackle attempt after another.     Kudos for Mr. Henry SHAME on the Defense.   ::)
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