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Offline sabot6d

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Question for the HS experienced guys
« on: December 20, 2018, 08:07:18 AM »
So I realized yesterday that I know exactly jack and shit about the recruiting process. I have 2 players I think are ready and able to play at the next level from this last years class.

I went through every coach I've ever met at a glazier clinics business cards and sent them an email. Email included a link to highlight real, link to players stats on MaxPreps, media releases of any honors awarded to the player from an outside governing body and about a paragraph of why I feel the player is ready to play at the next level with my contact info.

I also emailed it to the D2 schools that are in the area. I tried not to send both to the same schools but I did throw in a small comment saying that I had another player who was ready as well if they wanted his info as well.

I did get 1 reply within minutes requesting an visit.

Any tips, tricks or general advice on the topic. This aspect of the game is completely new to me and the info I found online is longwinded and poorly worded.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 09:35:23 AM »
Sabot

The recruiting process can & will drive you crazy. It is also dependent on where you are, the size of your school, & the quality of your athletes.

The biggest problem in the process is often the player's & their parent's expectations. Everyone believes they are D1 talent when often they aren't. Most recruiting for us happens in the Spring(Florida has Spring Football). The important time is the Junior Year. College coaches will come through our school everyday during this period.

If these players are Seniors & have just finished their Senior season & haven't been previously recruited you are up against it. The first thing to consider is their measurables. I know this doesn't determine the type of player they really are, but to most colleges this is what really matters.

As far as the D2 & D3 schools go, you have to realize they don't have much of a recruiting budget. We are fortunate that a local school here has a Recruiting fair in early March. It is mostly D2 & D3 schools no one has heard of but it opens an avenue for your players. This is where it is important to make connections. It can really be a very good option for a player to go to school & play. There are several small schools that players can go to that most of their costs will be covered.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 09:45:59 AM »
So I realized yesterday that I know exactly jack and shit about the recruiting process. I have 2 players I think are ready and able to play at the next level from this last years class.

I went through every coach I've ever met at a glazier clinics business cards and sent them an email. Email included a link to highlight real, link to players stats on MaxPreps, media releases of any honors awarded to the player from an outside governing body and about a paragraph of why I feel the player is ready to play at the next level with my contact info.

I also emailed it to the D2 schools that are in the area. I tried not to send both to the same schools but I did throw in a small comment saying that I had another player who was ready as well if they wanted his info as well.

I did get 1 reply within minutes requesting an visit.

Any tips, tricks or general advice on the topic. This aspect of the game is completely new to me and the info I found online is longwinded and poorly worded.

Each player has a responsibility to do the following:

1- create a field level profile and get put on our field level roster. I can promote a player to hundreds of schools in minutes.

2- each player posts his test scores and hudl highlights on field level and I can update player Evals

3- players are to put hudl highlights on twitter which is huge.

4- players are to attend camps for exposure

5- players attend recruiter visits here at the school ( dozens) and must seek teachers permission and also a pass from me.

6- division 1 and 2 guys work with guidance department to register for NCAA clearinghouse.

7- attend university prospect camps, visits both formal and informal. Fill out online prospect cards for desired schools.

8- communicate with me.

9- attend college coaches night at local school

10- donít post dumb stuff on social media.
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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 10:50:01 AM »
I have never been through the process but a buddy of mine went through it recently with his son. His son was very active on Twitter and he went to all the camps he could go to(according to his dad). He had the grades, which is huge because there were better players than him that didn't get squat because their grades were not up to par. His dad told me in the beginning the process was awesome but soon that faded and they both were glad when it was over. He ended up getting a full ride to a local HBC. Great kid btw too. Oh and he played for Joe.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 11:27:48 AM »
Thank you for the info so far.

My team is a weird concoction. We are half homeschooled kids and the other half are private school kids where the school holds no affiliation for athletics. With that said we are also largely unknown due to previous admins not reaching out to make those connections. We also dont have any schools that come to our school (we dont have a school).

I've warned them all about social media and what are acceptable and unacceptable posts. I used their own pages to prove those points.  We did not have hudl previously (it's on my list of things to do for next year).

What do you mean by field level profile?

For lack of a better analogy I am now in charge of a youth org for varsity boys and am trying to clean up the mess from the 18 years of ineptitude before me while trying not be inept myself and prep for next season and fundraise.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 04:21:03 PM »
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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 11:12:44 PM »
Thank you Coach. I had no idea that even existed.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 06:08:50 AM »
No problem. We had our fullback/ tightend get a couple visits from Bryant, his test scores would take thousands off the tuition....so emphasize that!

A few years back we graduated a wing/ dback who is now playing dback at Bryant...Andre Brackett Jr.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2018, 08:55:43 AM »
My initial attempts were good enough to get 1 player a visit to Northwood University. Its was my WR/DB. When I posted the video of the 2 seconds left comeback victory. He was the one who caught the pass and made 8 people miss to win.

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Re: Question for the HS experienced guys
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 02:19:47 PM »
So I realized yesterday that I know exactly jack and shit about the recruiting process. I have 2 players I think are ready and able to play at the next level from this last years class.

I went through every coach I've ever met at a glazier clinics business cards and sent them an email. Email included a link to highlight real, link to players stats on MaxPreps, media releases of any honors awarded to the player from an outside governing body and about a paragraph of why I feel the player is ready to play at the next level with my contact info.

I also emailed it to the D2 schools that are in the area. I tried not to send both to the same schools but I did throw in a small comment saying that I had another player who was ready as well if they wanted his info as well.

I did get 1 reply within minutes requesting an visit.

Any tips, tricks or general advice on the topic. This aspect of the game is completely new to me and the info I found online is longwinded and poorly worded.

A big part of the recruiting game now is done through the camp system.  Players who want to play college football at the D1 level should attend camps starting as freshmen and sophomores, if possible.  It's good if they hit up a few they can realistically project at based on their size and speed (recruiters, especially D1 recruiters, are very picky about that).  Usually the freshman and sophomore year is where future D1 players get noticed and will come out of camp with their first offer.  That is where the "star system" for recruits comes in: when a player gets his first offer from a G5 school, he gets a "star."  If it's a P5 school, he's at least a 3 star rating.  Then he can go up in stars if more/bigger time schools offer from there.

So encourage your best kids to go to camps.  However, be careful: a lot of D2 and D3 camps are just cash grabs where the "assistants" don't really pay much attention to the kids who pay to go and, at worst, some jackass at the camps may wind up telling your players something that undermines what you're teaching them.

Honestly, a lot of recruiting is just getting a kid noticed in the first place.  Recruiters don't read the sports pages, they don't really just go to HS games hoping to be wow'ed by random prospects, and they don't care what media accolades or stats a kid has.  They do care about height, weight, 40, grades, etc.  They also care who is offering a kid--that's where the star system comes in.  None of them want to be the first guy to offer... but once a kid gets an offer from 1 school at a certain level, others will be a lot more interested in taking a look.  Again, the camps are key to getting those first offers, as are the relationships you, as their coach, build with college programs.

If they are D2 and below level players, it works a bit differently. D2 schools have scholarships, but only a few and they are selective about who they give those to.  D3 and NAIA don't do scholarships and will honestly "recruit" anyone who wants to play there because the university uses football programs to get students' tuition money.  The players can take it upon themselves to go to the colleges' websites to fill out a recruiting form with their info.  Recruiters will usually be in touch with them (and you) from there.

As a coach, develop a list of contacts on staffs at the local colleges, similar to what you've done--aim for every school within 3 hours or so, as recruiting is really a regional thing unless a player is a 4 or 5 star prospect with P5 offers.  Try to build relationships with them and be trustworthy on info you give them--don't tell them a kid can play for them when you don't honestly believe he can and don't tell them a kid runs 4.6 when he really runs 4.9.  When you email them, give them the players' height, weight, 40 time, bench, squat, GPA, ACT score, and a link to their HUDL or YouTube highlights (make sure the highlights have the best plays first) that the recruiter can click on and review in a couple of minutes.  Ideally, start this during the junior year so they have a while to evaluate and build a relationship with the kid if they are interested.  Make sure you let them know how they can contact you and invite them to stop by for a visit.

Recruiters don't give a crap about stats, media, or any of that.  They want big, strong, fast athletes who qualify academically (both to be admitted to their school and also to play under the NCAA and NAIA rules) and have stayed out of trouble.  Leadership accolades are good, too.  ACT scores have tripped up many an athlete.  If a kid doesn't have the grades, he needs to look at going the JC route for a year or two.
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