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Offline Bob Goodman

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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2018, 11:26:21 AM »
BOOOOOOOO. lol

The main purpose is so can go unbalanced, change formation etc & snap the ball before they have time to adjust.
Oh.  I thought you were just trying to keep it simple.

If it's just to maintain the element of surprise, that's what a snap count is for!  I used, "Go, 1, 2, 3,...," with "go" to start the motion if there was any motion, otherwise snap on "go".  In the 1st half of one game, an official objected to this (something about a league rule on the cadence), but changed his mind at halftime.

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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2018, 12:52:59 PM »
Iím in the head nod camp. You can coach the QB to survey the line and then go under and nod to start motion. I canít see a downside to that. Ensures heís ready/paying attention to the motion guy too.

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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2018, 01:16:50 PM »
Iím in the head nod camp. You can coach the QB to survey the line and then go under and nod to start motion. I canít see a downside to that. Ensures heís ready/paying attention to the motion guy too.

Update:

We went pretty much w/ this. QB looks at back, back goes in motion. Problem solved! Thank you for all the suggestions. I tired em all (or some variation), and this was best.

Maybe this thread can be useful for anyone else looking to sprint to the line & snap on 1st sound.
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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2018, 02:51:16 PM »
Update:

We went pretty much w/ this. QB looks at back, back goes in motion. Problem solved! Thank you for all the suggestions. I tired em all (or some variation), and this was best.

Maybe this thread can be useful for anyone else looking to sprint to the line & snap on 1st sound.
Are you going straight Red/Blue with the little dudes?

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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2018, 03:37:02 PM »
Are you going straight Red/Blue with the little dudes?

Weíre doing everything I do w/ the older boys. Iíve just adjusted the terminology a bit to make it simpler.

Our backs are onschedule. They can execute down & belly series at a pretty high level. Good fakes, tempo, meshes etc.
Power group is way behind. What worked w/ the older boys is not translating w/ them. So weíre trying to get that figured out. Part of it is a talent issue. As it is I have 3 backs rotations between line & backfield. But C, RT, TE is a major concern right now.

Then again, I donít really know where weíre supposed to be at this point. Jr High kids weíre basically at the same point every year. Little guys I just donít know what our expectations should be.

Based on what I saw from other teams last year at this level, I think weíre on track. But itís hard to know. Iím trying to keep my ideals for the kids really high, while not getting frustrated by them not meeting that.
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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2018, 08:47:43 AM »
Dude i'm having same problems with 8th graders keep at it theyll get it. What i always find that always takes time early in summer is finding who those pieces will be and getting them quality reps while your trying to figure what to do with those that you have to give a look at. Its a frustrating process but it always works itself out. Just got to keep reppin and try to make the strong stronger and the weaker servicable enough to get you 1 1st down . i think that part of it never changes regardless of age group....
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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2018, 03:17:16 PM »
Heres how we progress to 3 step motion. We install our 4 base series all from 100/900 ( Buck ,Belly , Down , and Pwr). We rep the SHIT out of our core plays until i'm comfortable with  the timing, ball fakes, and meshes from our static looks. We introduce our motions from this as well with 1 step motion on down and 3 step on belly and wont introduce red and blue until i feel the timing wont be jacked up. Why we do it this way is because when they devolop there confidence and feel for were the meshes take place and time up with core motion plays it makes the transition to jet and  red/ blue much easier because they know exactly how to time up motion and timimg with a 3 part rhytmic cadence because its memory and feel from constant repition in indy work group work and team work. By the time are offensive days are done they have went thru there assignments at least 12 times before we go live thud. You can move at very fast pace with a 3 part cadence that will keep pressure on opossing defenses especially if you go no huddle with wristbands you can also go on 2 very easily once there very confident. I think for the style off offense we play 3 part rhythmic cadence is best way to go if you want to not drive yourself up a wall.
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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2018, 03:45:56 PM »
Heres how we progress to 3 step motion. We install our 4 base series all from 100/900 ( Buck ,Belly , Down , and Pwr). We rep the SHIT out of our core plays until i'm comfortable with  the timing, ball fakes, and meshes from our static looks. We introduce our motions from this as well with 1 step motion on down and 3 step on belly and wont introduce red and blue until i feel the timing wont be jacked up. Why we do it this way is because when they devolop there confidence and feel for were the meshes take place and time up with core motion plays it makes the transition to jet and  red/ blue much easier because they know exactly how to time up motion and timimg with a 3 part rhytmic cadence because its memory and feel from constant repition in indy work group work and team work. By the time are offensive days are done they have went thru there assignments at least 12 times before we go live thud. You can move at very fast pace with a 3 part cadence that will keep pressure on opossing defenses especially if you go no huddle with wristbands you can also go on 2 very easily once there very confident. I think for the style off offense we play 3 part rhythmic cadence is best way to go if you want to not drive yourself up a wall.
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Re: Motion w/ the little guys
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2018, 03:23:21 PM »
Coaching 7-8-9ís this year. Transition has been fairly smooth moving down from Jr High boys. But iím having major issues w/ motion. Looking for any advice/ideas that have worked for you.

My issues: Weíre going on 1st sound. So the motion has to be a non verbal command.
Iíve tried toe tap, but QB then struggles w/ his reverse pivot footwork.
I tried but slap, but then my back false start.
Iíve helmet tap, but backs false start & itís too difficult to get ready to recieve the ball from the C.

Iím contemplating just having the back go in motion on his own. He gets set, motions, QB snaps the ball.

This could just be a 1st week problem. This could be poor communication on my part (itís difficult speaking in a 9 year oldís language). Could be weíre doing too much?

Don't go on first sound unless it's a no-motion play.

Down.  Ready (signal for motion).  Go (when back is where he needs to be).  That cadence works.

I don't even like trying to go on first sound with motion in HS.  All sorts of problems with that, IME.
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