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Offline Dusty Ol Fart

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Re: Pull to kick or pull to lead
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2012, 11:48:07 PM »
2 foot splits.  I don't necessarily run the Packer Sweep.  My guards arent behemoths but honestly they aren't as fast as my TB.  FB yes, TB no.   I run a pull and replace with FB and Guard or Pull and Trap with the Guards and let the FB lead.  I can indeed get PSG around the edge before the TB gets there.  Power is a "J block" (code name for a kind of Kick out) by the FB.  I run Counter off a series of plays so my formations need to all look alike for best effect. 

I have developed ways to make things happen with Traps, Kick outs, and Short pulls.  I have a book written by Frank Leahy that has some real interesting blocks that would be killers if, I can figure out how to incorporate them. In short I just haven't had much luck getting 5 linemen with all the tricks a few but not 5.  I use the Marine Corps Mantra to make all 5 serviceable.   ;)   
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Re: Pull to kick or pull to lead
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2012, 09:08:39 AM »
I think I COULD get the BSG to the DE in time to kick on power, but that's with foot to foot splits and hard down blocking (TKO), so we're running almost to the B gap.  Doesn't make sense to do that, but I think we could.

That said, we try to get the BSG out on the CB running power sweep, and it rarely happens, the ball beats him.  While our BSG is a FB, he's rarely as fast as the guy we run on sweeps, so the ball carrier ends up by him just past the C gap.  So basically, I'd have to agree - anything more than zero splits and any play run to wide C gap, and the BSG isn't getting there...

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Re: Pull to kick or pull to lead
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2012, 03:53:42 PM »
2 foot splits.  I don't necessarily run the Packer Sweep.  My guards arent behemoths but honestly they aren't as fast as my TB.  FB yes, TB no.   I run a pull and replace with FB and Guard or Pull and Trap with the Guards and let the FB lead.  I can indeed get PSG around the edge before the TB gets there.  Power is a "J block" (code name for a kind of Kick out) by the FB.  I run Counter off a series of plays so my formations need to all look alike for best effect. 

I have developed ways to make things happen with Traps, Kick outs, and Short pulls.  I have a book written by Frank Leahy that has some real interesting blocks that would be killers if, I can figure out how to incorporate them. In short I just haven't had much luck getting 5 linemen with all the tricks a few but not 5.  I use the Marine Corps Mantra to make all 5 serviceable.   ;)   

Two foot splits using pulling BSG on power is a HS split (wing T) and they have no MPP rules.
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Re: Pull to kick or pull to lead
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2012, 11:11:43 PM »
Two foot splits using pulling BSG on power is a HS split (wing T) and they have no MPP rules.

Zactly!!  Except for the Wing-T.  We make our holes and exploit bubbles.   ;)
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