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UC jetsweep
« on: October 26, 2017, 01:19:18 PM »
Anyone running this as a staple play in their O, weíve installed this as a playoff wrinkle and are running it to an UB TE/Wing or T/wing surface. We are not pulling any lineman.

Question is do you usually block the DE playside or leave him unblocked to decide take jetsweep or our off Tackle run off the jet.

Things we have coached up is anything from a 3 tech in we donít block on jet sweep and auto 2nd level the oline and our sweeper guy after taking the handoff he gets a yard or 2 depth. Currently we are doubling the DE with TE and wing ang having wing chip to 1st backer playside. Our WR is playside occupying the CB. Our base run game from UC is still intact structuraly with ISO, power, counter and trap just adding a fast motion to it. No extra teaching except for the jet sweep.

So 2 questions to make this successful for us is....

1. Any coaching points Iím missing
2. Do you block playside DE

Thanks

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2017, 02:23:26 PM »
We've been fooling around with UC Jet for the last couple weeks. Couple thoughts below that might be helpful.

  • Running Jet from UC is tough if they have a contain player on the line (5, 7, or 9 tech)
  • Running Jet from UC is GREAT if they have a contain player off the line. Think 4-4 OLB
  • Have the QB put his pivot foot back before the snap. The goal is to snap the ball when the Jet is near the outside leg of the tackle. Q will need every bit of quickness he has and lots of reps to get this right.
  • We dont block a contain guy on the line. We want to either just beat him with speed or influence him wider to make the C gap bubble really big.
  • I like to run it to the open side (no TE or wing) with a wideout holding the corner out in space. BY doing this, we give a 5 or 7 tech very little time to react. Wide 9 is still going to kill us. We want to move the contain guy as close as we can to the handoff. Maybe even think of reducing the line splits. Inches make a difference on this play.
  • The plays we get as a result of faking Jet are almost always better than actually running Jet Sweep.
  • Great plays of the Jet fake: Q Trap toward the motion, Lead/Iso away from the motion, TE/H back counter toward the motion, Slant/Wheel toward the motion
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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2017, 02:36:08 PM »
We run it and it's become one of our staples. Strange, because this is probably the first year that I can recall us running a called sweep. We go from mega wide splits and a 2x3 empty backfield or sometimes a 2x2 ace.

Line blocks playside gap, man on, then climb. Our tackle generally ends up with the force/contain guy. Play side backs block 1, 2, 3 from inside out. I toyed with letting a 3 tech go, but we discovered that the wrong 3 back will wreck you. I just tell them to be smart about it. If your guy has a chance at our back, then chip him and climb.

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We tend to run it more from Gun, but I'm working on the OC to change that up.
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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2017, 02:37:28 PM »
Some guys to talk to here about jet
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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2017, 02:52:54 PM »
Anyone running this as a staple play in their O, weíve installed this as a playoff wrinkle and are running it to an UB TE/Wing or T/wing surface. We are not pulling any lineman.

Question is do you usually block the DE playside or leave him unblocked to decide take jetsweep or our off Tackle run off the jet.

Things we have coached up is anything from a 3 tech in we donít block on jet sweep and auto 2nd level the oline and our sweeper guy after taking the handoff he gets a yard or 2 depth. Currently we are doubling the DE with TE and wing ang having wing chip to 1st backer playside. Our WR is playside occupying the CB. Our base run game from UC is still intact structuraly with ISO, power, counter and trap just adding a fast motion to it. No extra teaching except for the jet sweep.

So 2 questions to make this successful for us is....

1. Any coaching points Iím missing
2. Do you block playside DE

Thanks

Block the DE.  You can reach him or even log him with a RB, but you need to somehow get a piece of him because a containing DE will still blow up the sweeper.  Sometimes you can veer block it if a DE's playing soft and run underneath him, but that type of an influence block isn't something you can base the play around.

Another coaching point is that you HAVE to get someone onto the force player (usually an OLB).  This means you want to run the play only to at least a 2 receiver side or lead with a RB.

For the sweeper, coach him to be going full speed at the snap, like a jet.  After he takes the handoff, he should bubble his path a couple of steps to get depth and get around the DE (this can also let a RB, particularly an offset RB, lead for him around the edge).  The sweep should hit wide and at full speed--run to the hash, numbers, sideline--in that order, and look to turn it up outside the defense.  It's a full speed sprint to the sideline.  One of the worst things that can happen is for the sweeper to slow down and look for creases or stick his foot in the ground and cut up too sharply into the inside pursuit.

The QB should time the snap so that he snaps the ball when the sweeper is stepping behind the T.  Then he opens up by pivoting to the side the sweep is going towards, so if the sweep is going left, the QB will come out and spin to his left with the ball, making the handoff directly behind him.  You can use all your base runs as counters off the Jet, but the fake to the sweeper needs to come first.  The mesh needs to be on the sweeper to execute and sometimes the timing can take some reps.

It's not a complicated play, and it's been a while since I ran it from under center, but those are the big coaching points I know.  The first HC I ever coached under loved Jet and would use Jet without a pulling G as his base run.  Before that, I thought it was a dumb, gimmicky play.  After that, I was a believer.
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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2017, 04:13:52 PM »
This is awesome gentleman. Thank you.

Really for us itís a 1 play install just to get our fast guy on the edge as to open up our downhill running game. Weíve been working on timing it up for 2 weeks now and it looks crisp. We havenít run jet sweep for on UC at all this year and installed jetsweep from beast look for last weeks game and scored once on jet sweep from beast last week. It really opened up our inside run game from beast even more than it already was. Looking to accomplish the same thing from UC for our playoff push that no one has seen on film from us.

Would love to continue this dialog on jet sweep coaching points as it may become a staple of our from our UC package in our he future.

Have NEVER been a sweep guy ever, but Iím starting to come around to the dark side.

Pm me if you like so we can exchange contact info if youíd like to school me on this offline.

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 04:53:52 PM »
I would have the playside WR block the OLB or whatever other force defender shows first.  Lead a back or wing onto the corner or don't block the corner.  If your jet back is good, you should like your chances of him 1v1 in the open field vs the corner.

To me, on jet sweep: outside guys block inside defenders (Twins or WR/Wing blocking DE and OLB) and inside guys lead to the outside (TE and lead back to safeties and corners).  Better leverage.

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2017, 06:12:40 PM »
One other question that just popped into my head.....

Mesh between ball carriers, other than maybe ball security issues, do you teach your QB to handoff with one hand or 2 hands?

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2017, 07:35:32 PM »
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When I first saw Jet Sweep I thought it was the dumbest football play ever. That was because it was a bad Jet Sweep. A year or 2 later I am visiting Delaware & Coach Raymond diagrammed Jet Sweep. He then showed clips. Light-bulbs go off & I see the potential. Over the last 5 or 6 years I have spoken at clinics about Jet Sweep & the complimentary plays. This is Jet from the gun, however I will talk about the UTC version for you.

First, it's all about timing. The Jet man must be running at full speed when he gets the ball. Otherwise this is a bad play. I have only ever used a two handed hand off.

We never worry about blocking anything inside of a play side 3, So from the center to all away side players simply rip & run to the direction of the jet. The further away they are the deeper the angle they take. Penetration will kill Jet, everyone must reach & not allow penetration.

Once the Jet man takes the ball he takes a drop step, & then will run a path of Bounce Bounce Bounce. Each Bounce will set up the outside blocks. A Bounce is where the Jet Man turns up field for 2 steps then gets width. We teach the landmarks as Hash Marks, Numbers, Sideline.

Hope that helps, otherwise give me a call.

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 12:26:07 AM »
https://youtu.be/UbpEauNBDxs

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 01:00:25 AM »
https://www.hudl.com/v/28Bbyv

This is why you run jet sweep. Teams get REALLY stupid about it. They sell out to stop jet so you can run all the plays you actually want to run.

This is jet w/ Down series blocking. We ran this like 4 times in 5 plays. It's stealing.
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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2017, 06:39:50 AM »
https://youtu.be/UbpEauNBDxs

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Nice. You can see the jet back getting depth once he gets the ball and the bouncing outside. Very few teams bother to teach the jet back to get some depth once they get the ball. Then they wonder why their runner slams right into a 9 tech and the guy trying to log him.

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2017, 06:41:06 AM »
https://www.hudl.com/v/28Bbyv

This is why you run jet sweep. Teams get REALLY stupid about it. They sell out to stop jet so you can run all the plays you actually want to run.

This is jet w/ Down series blocking. We ran this like 4 times in 5 plays. It's stealing.
I assume you also hand it to the fb and have a keeper as well. Good job as always. Probably some counters. Let's see it man.

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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2017, 08:34:54 AM »
You also can run same concept from dive back good looking red light play. In Carneige term's lol
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Re: UC jetsweep
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2017, 10:06:53 AM »
https://www.hudl.com/v/28Bbyv

This is why you run jet sweep. Teams get REALLY stupid about it. They sell out to stop jet so you can run all the plays you actually want to run.

This is jet w/ Down series blocking. We ran this like 4 times in 5 plays. It's stealing.

Exactly.  The best part of Jet Series isn't the sweep (though it's great), but all the compliments you get off the cheap misdirection.  Running off tackle plays like Power, Down, or Belly are great when the DE is widening to stop the sweep.  Running inside plays like Trap, Zone, or Iso are awesome when the LBs are flying outside.  If the backside DE is chasing, run a boot.  BSLB chases, run Counter.  If the secondary is coming up hard to stop the Jet, you have pop passes, post-wheels, and backside posts that will gash them.  It really is the basis for a complete offense.