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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2017, 01:42:27 PM »
I've already told our RB's to be on the look-out for O-line types only!

Yeah, you definitely don't want to accidentally get stuck with an athletic, quick, aggressive kid on O-Line.  That would really be depressing.
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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2017, 02:02:09 PM »
Convert a couple off you kids to guards and run wing t.

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2017, 02:29:40 PM »
Yeah, you definitely don't want to accidentally get stuck with an athletic, quick, aggressive kid on O-Line.  That would really be depressing.
An ex player of mine is probably going to play big time D1 ball. Plays de in hs. He started at ot for us. One of the best athletes on the team. Why? Because running behind him was really easy.

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2017, 02:37:43 PM »
You hate to head into a season without enough soft, overweight, slow guys.
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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2017, 02:38:59 PM »
You hate to head into a season without enough soft, overweight, slow guys.
The coaching staff has all that covered.

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2017, 02:40:47 PM »
The coaching staff has all that covered.

When I go to C.O.O.L. I feel like one of those Kenyan marathoners.
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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2017, 02:43:59 PM »
When I go to C.O.O.L. I feel like one of those Kenyan marathoners.
I hear those guys make good wide outs.

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2017, 03:29:33 PM »
Thanks, Coaches!

Talked to the HC again, after reading through this thread.  What we're leaning towards is different formations .  I know that doesn't sound like much. But, for me (OL Coach), that opens up a lot of different possibilities.

Adhering to our 80% DW/20%... something else, here's what we're thinking:

It's an 8 Game regular season.

1.) Games 1 & 2-Our DW (foot-to-foot splits,SAB, Pulls & Kick Outs).
2.) Game 3- 'Zone Stretch' stuff (18" splits. Climbing to the LB's. RB's find the hole). .
3.) Game 4- Beast. I think the 18" line splits will allow us to stretch the field and use it.  I know beast can be ran from tight splits, too.
4.) Game 5- Different formations. This will give us our Jets & Shotguns. Hoping to talk the HC into some SW stuff, too.
 
After Game 5, evaluate what we like and don't like.   
And, possibly...
5.) Game 6 and beyond- Different Formations combined with 18" splits and we now have a much more diverse passing & running attack.  This may get too complicated. We'll have to see how it goes. 

All of these plans depend on what we recruit for the O-line.  I know I created this thread because of our RB's.  But, I really don't care too much about the backfield. The real football players are up front.  In keeping with that, I don't want any of those guys on my O-line. I take pride in coaching our O-line. And, I like the players that take pride in being O-line.  Therefore, I have asked all the coaches and players to be on  the look-out for O-line and defense players only. No more RB's.

RB2 knows how to play TE.  RB's 3 & 4 have playes SE and WR.  RB3 has great hands.  RB4 has good hands. I describe great hands as the type that dive & catch footballs.  One-hand catches and, most of all, the type that will catch a pass in traffic, take a hit and still hold on to the ball.  Good hands, I think of as kids that are solid receivers. You don't have to throw it to them right on target.  You can rely on them.  But, they're not the types that make diving catches or catch a ball in traffic.

Up front. We have possible returners: TE- Medium speed.  Decent blocker.  Great hands.  LT- Medium size. Really strong. Not very aggressive.   

Returning- Center- Small, quick. Very good technique.  Very smart!

Moving up from lower level are: A short, stocky RG- Highly aggressive. Loves being OL.  Loves putting the hurt on people.
RT- Large kid.  Slow and soft. Didn't get to work with him much. Did see improvement in attitude and ability. 

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2017, 03:41:39 PM »
Yeah, you definitely don't want to accidentally get stuck with an athletic, quick, aggressive kid on O-Line.  That would really be depressing.

You're getting the wrong idea.  Some of the best athletes on our team have been our O-linemen.  And, some of them have started out as those soft, doughy kids other coaches dismiss.  Others, like last season's Center, are small, quick and smart.  Some are average pluggers. 

When we ran SW, my pulling guard was actually a better RB than some of the RB's.  But, he was the fastest, most aggressive blocker on the team. So, that's where he played on offense.  He played Will LB in our 46 Gambler defense.  We've converted a starting FB to Center.  Converted one to RT last season, as you guys have already read. 
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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2017, 04:13:59 PM »
Hoping to talk the HC into some SW stuff, too.

Because you don't do enough different things already.... ::)

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2017, 04:54:49 PM »

It's an 8 Game regular season.

1.) Games 1 & 2-Our DW (foot-to-foot splits,SAB, Pulls & Kick Outs).
2.) Game 3- 'Zone Stretch' stuff (18" splits. Climbing to the LB's. RB's find the hole). .
3.) Game 4- Beast. I think the 18" line splits will allow us to stretch the field and use it.  I know beast can be ran from tight splits, too.
4.) Game 5- Different formations. This will give us our Jets & Shotguns. Hoping to talk the HC into some SW stuff, too.
 
After Game 5, evaluate what we like and don't like.   
And, possibly...
5.) Game 6 and beyond- Different Formations combined with 18" splits and we now have a much more diverse passing & running attack.  This may get too complicated. We'll have to see how it goes. 


May?

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2017, 05:16:23 PM »
Your serious ?
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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2017, 05:24:42 PM »
Thanks, Coaches!

Talked to the HC again, after reading through this thread.  What we're leaning towards is different formations .  I know that doesn't sound like much. But, for me (OL Coach), that opens up a lot of different possibilities.

Adhering to our 80% DW/20%... something else, here's what we're thinking:

It's an 8 Game regular season.

1.) Games 1 & 2-Our DW (foot-to-foot splits,SAB, Pulls & Kick Outs).
2.) Game 3- 'Zone Stretch' stuff (18" splits. Climbing to the LB's. RB's find the hole). .
3.) Game 4- Beast. I think the 18" line splits will allow us to stretch the field and use it.  I know beast can be ran from tight splits, too.
4.) Game 5- Different formations. This will give us our Jets & Shotguns. Hoping to talk the HC into some SW stuff, too.
 
After Game 5, evaluate what we like and don't like.   
And, possibly...
5.) Game 6 and beyond- Different Formations combined with 18" splits and we now have a much more diverse passing & running attack.  This may get too complicated. We'll have to see how it goes. 

All of these plans depend on what we recruit for the O-line.  I know I created this thread because of our RB's.  But, I really don't care too much about the backfield. The real football players are up front.  In keeping with that, I don't want any of those guys on my O-line. I take pride in coaching our O-line. And, I like the players that take pride in being O-line.  Therefore, I have asked all the coaches and players to be on  the look-out for O-line and defense players only. No more RB's.

RB2 knows how to play TE.  RB's 3 & 4 have playes SE and WR.  RB3 has great hands.  RB4 has good hands. I describe great hands as the type that dive & catch footballs.  One-hand catches and, most of all, the type that will catch a pass in traffic, take a hit and still hold on to the ball.  Good hands, I think of as kids that are solid receivers. You don't have to throw it to them right on target.  You can rely on them.  But, they're not the types that make diving catches or catch a ball in traffic.

Up front. We have possible returners: TE- Medium speed.  Decent blocker.  Great hands.  LT- Medium size. Really strong. Not very aggressive.   

Returning- Center- Small, quick. Very good technique.  Very smart!

Moving up from lower level are: A short, stocky RG- Highly aggressive. Loves being OL.  Loves putting the hurt on people.
RT- Large kid.  Slow and soft. Didn't get to work with him much. Did see improvement in attitude and ability. 

All of our players play defense.  Some start. Others don't. But, they all play defense.


Pretty aggressive. Its seems you are looking for some sizzle.

I would take your comfortable DW and PM Jack Gregory.  Then your DW will be on steroids and everything marries up together.

Here are some snippets

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2017, 05:26:36 PM »
May?

Maybe he means it's allowed to, like, "You may now kiss the bride."

"This may get too complicated."  "Awesome, that's what we want!"

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Re: What Would You Do with A Stable Full of RB's
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2017, 06:00:20 PM »
It's an 8 Game regular season.

1.) Games 1 & 2-Our DW (foot-to-foot splits,SAB, Pulls & Kick Outs).
2.) Game 3- 'Zone Stretch' stuff (18" splits. Climbing to the LB's. RB's find the hole). .
3.) Game 4- Beast. I think the 18" line splits will allow us to stretch the field and use it.  I know beast can be ran from tight splits, too.
4.) Game 5- Different formations. This will give us our Jets & Shotguns. Hoping to talk the HC into some SW stuff, too.
 
After Game 5, evaluate what we like and don't like.   
And, possibly...
5.) Game 6 and beyond- Different Formations combined with 18" splits and we now have a much more diverse passing & running attack.  This may get too complicated. We'll have to see how it goes.
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