Malcolm?

[CoachKell]

The dive is to "C" gap so it is OSV.

No I meant in the way you are running it, it's more like an IV Play

I don't like my QB's pitching downfield so, if a pitch takes place, it's not against a defender.  The QB is simply pitching to become a lead blocker for the HB pitchman.  HB now has two lead blockers, QB and FB.

Again, most OV plays I've ever seen had the qb simply keep after the dissconnect from the dive, saw one pitch downfield once

If the corner sits he gets run over by my FB who is assigned to him.

Couldnt tell that from the diagram

The dive being plugged by Sam is why I asked Malcolm how he blocked this play.  He's done it. Go to straight to the horse's mouth, I always say.   In my case, TE would go straight to Sam and RT would crab a "4" tech DT.

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The "nasty" forces the DE to crash straight down the line to get there in time.  In fact, he has to begin the crash on snap.  He can't step upfield at all (automatic give).  So he's trucking to get there.  He can't play both players at that speed.

And while the QB has more "breathing room", the ride time is only a split second.  QB can't think about it long same as DE can't think about coming inside very long.  If DE is out to far too make the tackle, he gives.  A "pull" read would require a serious commitment to the tackle by the DE.

Just wondering how wide your splits are ?

[DumCoach]

Again, most OV plays I've ever seen had the qb simply keep after the dissconnect from the dive, saw one pitch downfield once.

Back in the 90's Army under Sutton and Navy would both pitch on OSV but would only run the play maybe twice a game for fear of injury to QB.  It was not something they liked to do.

I've had two option QB's knocked out for a season (both first game) and one put into "pee in his pants" mode from fear of one DE's hits.  Malcolm has obviously been luckier than me.  But my "bad luck" caused me to create "injury free" option.  Lose your option QB and lose your season.

But it's hard not to get a "give" read on this play (the "injury free" part).  The QB is reading the DE the whole way to the mesh.  Unless the DE is crashing down the LOS on his first step or bumping inside with the motion, that's a give read.

If you get that read, it means you've been running the play too much or the DE is in his first game.

Just wondering how wide your splits are ?

We call "Mini" splits on the play which puts PS G and T foot to foot.  That's to get the QB to the mesh point in 3 steps and allow PST to get off a timely crab if TE must go directly to Sam.  The actual TE split is determined by the need for the WB to pass through his "C" gap from motion on snap and by the TE not colliding with our FB on a TE reverse.  It can be anywhere from 3 feet for the little guys to 5 feet for 10-11's.  This can vary a little bit with the TE reverse timing.

Because our WB can crack a DE from motion but is only 2-3 yards outside our TE, almost all my opponent's line their DE head up on my WB as they are more concerned with sweep than with this play.  This places them at least 4 yards from the mesh while the QB is 3 max.  So this requires a major commitment on snap by the DE to stop this play.

I don't know what Malcolm gains on the give but for me it has been a consistent 5 yards.  I've never scored with it.  I usually go to it when I'm having trouble with my regular "off tackle" play.  It has a tendency to still work when others don't.