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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 05:09:58 PM »
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I was working on "almost" same formation, and I to avoided calling it wildcat, only because football announcers name any and every thing wildcat. Hadnt picked out a name yet but I was thinking of
Gun-T.

I was using Te, SE, W/ 2 Slot or double wing backs, QB and FB side by side. Both wings would be 4 steps outside of tackles outside foot (usually) if theres a TE or not. This way I can jet sweep both sides, I can run counter to both sides, I have a quick scissors reverse between the wing backs or a true reverse running the SE. The counter is also good from this. The TE will be in tight 12" +/-, GAP = nasty split, 2 steps about 5 ', or split = same as SE about 6 yards wide. QB & FB 3 to 3 1/2 yds from ball. I have 4 receivers available right now! With motion I can create trips right or left. This O all but forces D into a cover 2 look and if they dont respect the pass enough Ive completed passes all over field



...........................5..O.O.C.O.O.....................6
....................3.................................4
.....................................1.2

I chose the above as base formation because
A) 3 is my best sweeper of the 2 wings
B) 4 is the best blocker of the 2 wings
C) kids carry ball naturally in right hand, this puts ball, when running sweep right away from D
D) my QB is right handed and rolls out to right and passes better than his roll out to left
E) this is ass backwards from what most teams run with a TE on right as base

I was thinking of running 3 series of plays

JET SERIES
-jet sweep
-jet counter
-jet scissors reverse
-jet SE reverse
-jet power (motioning back KO defender outside of designated hole
-jet FB trap or wedge
-jet fake FB dive QB 13/14 counter trey pulling backside G & T
-jet blast = DCWT midline, (4 back lines up tighter)

SPINNER
this will be my optional series lots of XX action, great misdirection, this may be a que or tag I add to plays so maybe not so much its own series just an alternate way of running some plays believe it or not this is excellent to pass out of as the D doesnt see ball for a a second or two and receivers are running routes with LB's and safety(s) not knowing its a pass yet.

OPTION, still working on X's & O's but belly, lead and speed options



-belly with or without motion, give/keep read by QB, may be with or against motion
-lead, with or with out motion, FB lead blocks for QB thru designated hole and will use playside wing to pitch to, or fake a pitch to when called.

FYI: This style of option I had 9 yr olds running it "OK" within 15 minutes to left and right. Trying to time up a motioning wing I noticed right away made play clumsy and less accurate, but using the playside wing as the pitch man MAN OH MAN boys had it down FAST!! and the DE was really in a pickle.
oddly enough my boys starting calling this play "pickle" so they said Pickle left/right because the DE was always bouncing back and forth trying to make a read.....he found himself in a pickle like being stuck between bases in baseball. I might just name it that, because the kids named it and it fit perfectly in describing what the play did to the DE............sadly enough my players LOVED the pickle play, asked to run it every practice after this bried introduction then every week in practice and in games the rest of season. Never was in 1 game because HC didnt want/allow pitching or tossing of anysort!!
When I had the right players in backfield I would call it in our practices vs starting D....we torched them with it 50% of the time!!!! and this was with 15 minutes of practice and then 1 or 2 minutes here and there for rest of season...sad I think I could of won a game we lost with just this 1 install!!! :'( :'( :'(

oh and HC when running starting D would tell me not to run our option "were never going to see that at this age so why waste practice time with it" well we saw it only a few times in 2nd round playoff game. DE bit on QB, pitch and 15 yds twice and a 4 yd TD run thge 3rd time the other team ran it..we lost. The option didnt beat us but if thats all they ran it woulda!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so a power lead option right would be on 2 (alla DCWT) and the backside wing will KO EMLOS and FB will LEAD up thru (with a pulling G usually) or power belly will fake a FB dive to backside A gap and pull G & T


ohhh man my head is spinning with all the potential....
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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2011, 01:27:47 PM »
Be easy coach. LOL I just wanted to share the info that these coaches that have been on the show gave me. I like looking at things in case I see it or need to make a change up that isn't a big add for me. This system was questionable by some old school guys, but I knew it would be a nice mix with your system if it was a Wing based system.
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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2011, 02:04:16 AM »
...........................5..O.O.C.O.O.....................6
....................3.................................4
.....................................1.2

FYI: This style of option I had 9 yr olds running it "OK" within 15 minutes to left and right. Trying to time up a motioning wing I noticed right away made play clumsy and less accurate, but using the playside wing as the pitch man MAN OH MAN boys had it down FAST!!

Is that what they call "cowboy" action by the pitch player, where he backsteps to get into pitch relationship?

Would you consider optioning Texas A&M style, with 1 attacking the DE and 2 as the pitch man one way, and 2 attacking the DE and 1 as the pitch man the other way?

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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 01:04:31 PM »
you know what Ive noticed is a quick 2 minute conversation looks like a dang book when typed!

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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 01:06:27 PM »
Be easy coach. LOL I just wanted to share the info that these coaches that have been on the show gave me. I like looking at things in case I see it or need to make a change up that isn't a big add for me. This system was questionable by some old school guys, but I knew it would be a nice mix with your system if it was a Wing based system.


Change up = boredom or lack of knowledge imo

Nice presentation though... Thanks for sharing
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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »
Change up = boredom or lack of knowledge imo

Nice presentation though... Thanks for sharing


Wow really lack of knowledge??? I have seen many coaches make an add and it wasn't because they lack any knowledge in what they we're doing. I learn something new everyday.  ???
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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 02:11:55 PM »
Wow really lack of knowledge??? I have seen many coaches make an add and it wasn't because they lack any knowledge in what they we're doing. I learn something new everyday.  ???


A system offense doesnt need additions or. Change ups ... If you are good at what you do you dont need to add
 
If you arent good, adding more wont help because you lack something somewhere else
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 02:47:54 PM »
A system offense doesnt need additions or. Change ups ... If you are good at what you do you dont need to add
 
If you arent good, adding more wont help because you lack something somewhere else


well then we would all be running early 1900 offenses for lack of innovation with the leather yamaca of that period that was meant to protect. C'mon coach innovation is part of the game, evolution for cryin out loud. We aint reinventin the wheel just putting on new rims!

Maybe ya dont like change but looking at something changing it up, adding your own salt & pepper to your own taste/flavor THATS FOOTBALL BABY! Personally I have never seen anybody ever run anothers system exactly.....ohh Ive read people that do it, just never have seen it.

I think some of the new stuff coming out, like direct snap wing T style O such as this are awesome, in the past few years Ive seen many, but only got a few recorded

-Modesto Christian 2009 CA state champs w/ direct snap wing T
-this yrs 2011 Missouri D2 Lamar vs Lafayette county, direct snap double wing/direct snap wing T damn near what I ran this year! great misdirection
-this year 2011 Kansas 6A Olathe South vs Witchita Hts more direct snap wing T

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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 02:54:26 PM »
A system offense doesnt need additions or. Change ups ... If you are good at what you do you dont need to add
 
If you arent good, adding more wont help because you lack something somewhere else


I guess I disagree with that coach. We all have a base that we all are very good at. Sooner or later people catch up with you. This is the reason why some have tags and others adjustments to keep their base going. Adding another series off of your base is something many do. In Wing T they have a Belly, Buck, and etc. I doubt it's from a lack of knowledge that adds or change ups was being made. If you're changing because what you're doing isn't working because you didn't install it properly or have a lack of knowledge I understand that. I have yet met any coach that ran a set base and NEVER made one add or change-up to maintain their base.  ;)
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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 04:02:27 PM »
adding to your base is one thing, completely changing the offense for a bunch of gimmick plays is another ... i like to toy with the offense and find little wrinkles i think i can bring success.  But if im an undercenter team a wing t team, a dw team, an sbv team if i am good at what i do i dont need to do anything more then a few tweeks.  most teams who go to these gimmicks are not winning teams ie the miami dolphins...when they brought it in to fad again yes again (damn those 1900 offenses) were they winning? or was is a gimmick out of desperation that worked... then the whole NFL experimented and found they were better off running one of there plays

if i am a single wing coach i do not want my qb under center but that would be a change up wouldnt it...change the whole thing

i have never seen (at least in PA) a winning football team abandon there identity for a gimmick play for a change up. I see direct snap teams stay in direct snap, i see under center teams stay under center, i see multiple offenses try to use the strenghts of both...did not see a whole new personnel package come on the field for the wild cat

just my opinion, you dont have to like it...
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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 04:04:23 PM »
I guess I disagree with that coach. We all have a base that we all are very good at. Sooner or later people catch up with you. This is the reason why some have tags and others adjustments to keep their base going. Adding another series off of your base is something many do. In Wing T they have a Belly, Buck, and etc. I doubt it's from a lack of knowledge that adds or change ups was being made. If you're changing because what you're doing isn't working because you didn't install it properly or have a lack of knowledge I understand that. I have yet met any coach that ran a set base and NEVER made one add or change-up to maintain their base.  ;)


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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2011, 05:33:35 PM »
I must be a goof...I do not see the Wing T correlations at all.

I expected a Wing T pistol thingy. I think its just a mistake but the TE or EMOIL is covered a lot...I think. With the UB line its hard to tell. Seems there are 8 on the LOS?

For me....Wing T = wider splits, 4 men meshing, G's pulling, Nasty TE, motioning WB, FB from hell....

This looks like an empty gun jet offense so I can see Zacks point.

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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 07:20:12 PM »
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I know..but after you explained it...it made more sense. I was thinking along the lines of any changes is listed as such.

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Re: T-Cat Offensive Attack loaded!!!! (Wilcat Wing T Attack)
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 07:22:43 PM »
I must be a goof...I do not see the Wing T correlations at all.

I expected a Wing T pistol thingy. I think its just a mistake but the TE or EMOIL is covered a lot...I think. With the UB line its hard to tell. Seems there are 8 on the LOS?

For me....Wing T = wider splits, 4 men meshing, G's pulling, Nasty TE, motioning WB, FB from hell....

This looks like an empty gun jet offense so I can see Zacks point.


I never really looked much at it once he sent it to me. Every guest send in items so that the people that listen to the show can see what is being covered. I know that a lot of the Wing T guys didn't care for it. I posted it because I'm trying to load content every week. Most like playbooks and Wildcat so this one was the next one up to be posted. As coaches respond back I will post the ppts sent.
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