Inxerted veer?

[durfee4]

Been reading alot on the inverted veer anyone run it.And is it propreit for youth.  http://smartfootball.com/run-game/what-is-the-inverted-veer-dash-read

[Bob Goodman]

So this Chris is the one to whom we owe the description "inverted"?

I think the dash option may be the safest hand-or-keep option for kids, in that it's the least likely to cause a turnover.  The complaint I've seen the most is the slow start you get on the keep; but any time you have paths cross and a read, someone has to wait for someone else to clear, so it's a matter of picking your poison.

[CoachShad]

Coach:

As I viewed the clips its simply Outside Veer blocking for the Read Option and/ or waiting for Inside Veer blocking to open the lanes inside.   I dont see this as a revelation just another way to block instead of using ZONE.  Is it doable? Sure!! 

The real question is do you have the time and patience for it to develop over the two or three seasons it would take for it to come together as a whole package at the youth level?     

[Rich Kelly]

Been reading alot on the inverted veer anyone run it.And is it propreit for youth.  http://smartfootball.com/run-game/what-is-the-inverted-veer-dash-read

It's a double option play, which is much easier than the triple, doable as long as you have a kid that can read the key, and hopefuly  run

[durfee4]

Would you use the blocking mentioned?I have tons of stuff on option,but whats the easiest to teach and execute? Thanks

[CoachShad]

Veer blocking is a tride and proven methodology for Option Blocking.  Zone is as well.  I think the preference is purely based on how the coach was taught the option.

jmho

[jem]

Would you use the blocking mentioned?I have tons of stuff on option,but whats the easiest to teach and execute? Thanks

D,

I would add a TE and not pull a backside guard and run it using the same blocking as Speed option because that is basically what it is, a speed option with a hand-off instead of pitch. 

But that is just me.

j

[durfee4]

Thanks ,J i,ve seen that before, i,ll look for it.

[Jburk]

I really like the idea of inverted veer, and if given the chance this upcoming season, I'm pretty sure I'd run it like what I've attached. Also, and perhaps, it could possibly be ran using base trap blocking from spread (tackle trap was our base running play last year). QB would just have to read the kickout block on the DE and the corresponding hole.

Thoughts?

[durfee4]

I really like the idea of inverted veer, and if given the chance this upcoming season, I'm pretty sure I'd run it like what I've attached. Also, and perhaps, it could possibly be ran using base trap blocking from spread (tackle trap was our base running play last year). QB would just have to read the kickout block on the DE and the corresponding hole.

Thoughts?

Is that sab blocking?Thanks for the diagram

[ZACH]

I really like the idea of inverted veer, and if given the chance this upcoming season, I'm pretty sure I'd run it like what I've attached. Also, and perhaps, it could possibly be ran using base trap blocking from spread (tackle trap was our base running play last year). QB would just have to read the kickout block on the DE and the corresponding hole.

Thoughts?

Ide do it opposite, run trap left and read right def end for keep, i smell a home run there

[Jburk]

Is that sab blocking?Thanks for the diagram

Yup, SAB. Players cover their backside gap and then run their track.

[Jburk]

Ide do it opposite, run trap left and read right def end for keep, i smell a home run there

You know, the more I think about that, the more I like it. I especially like that concept from a trips formation. I included a couple more drawings that I think represent what you were talking about.

[jem]

Thanks ,J i,ve seen that before, i,ll look for it.

Thanks ,J i,ve seen that before, i,ll look for it.

D,

If you are using a TE to playside then it is the same blocking scheme used for OSV.  {See what Scott (shad) posted above.}

One thing that Bob mentioned about the speed of the play developing at such a deep depth,  you probably want somebody backside hinge blocking to makes sure your QB doesn't get caught in the backfield by the backside DE.  If I were running from the gun (which is not my thing) I would hinge block my backside linemen.

Once again you can pretty much use/adapt any blocking you want.... base if off of your current scheme if you have a particular scheme you use for everything else. 

When I first started running double options I based them off of wedge blocking and track blocking... depending on the option I was running... because that was the 2 blocking schemes I used for everything else.  OSV and track blocking go hand in hand.

j

[CoachShad]

D,

I would add a TE and not pull a backside guard and run it using the same blocking as Speed option because that is basically what it is, a speed option with a hand-off instead of pitch. 

But that is just me.

j

I had a DUH moment.  Jem I agree that the OSV works much easier with a TE whereas Zone is Zone regardless of TE or no TE.