Teaching Covered/uncovered blocking

[pflat1]

Iv done a search and found acouple things but does anyone have or know of any material to go about teaching the rules of covered/uncovered?  Thanks

[durfee4]

Look at the download a couple of threads below,and also some stuff on the option page.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmNZw-uC-Po       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em00JHb86TM&feature=related  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQd5psPMcmk&feature=related     http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TcgYW2z44XY&feature=endscreen   .I found these to helpful also.

[coachmsl]

The purest teach it like this:

Covered = Defender aligned within 1 yard of the LOS in the area between the OL's nose to the next playside OL's nose. 

I have heard others talk about covered includes an inside shade though.  This is what we taught last year.

Not sure which is best for youth.  Currently personal oppinion is nose to nose.  This is a changed in what we taught last year.  Lets look at some common Defenses we see and discuss why.

53 -  The most common Defense we see.

……………….…50….……00….…..50………………………….
..c…………9…….4i……..0….……4i……..9…………c…….
…X……………....t….g….C….G….T….Y………………………….
………………..H....………Q……………………………….Z………
…………………….……..….R………………………………………….

So playside The difference is the G & T.  According to the numbers, the right 4i belongs to G and the right 50 tech lb belongs to the T.  However, last year when an inside shade was considered “Covered” there was some confusion on who got who.  (we are talking to 11 and 12 year olds)

…………………-3……..…-1…..……..2………………………….
..c…….…-4…….-2….….0………1.……..3……………c…….
…X……………....t….g….C….G….T….Y………………………….
………………..H....………Q……………………………….Z………
…………………………..….R………………………………………….

Another thing we have to look at is play selection.  Rich Kelly mentioned Red / White theory in another thread.  This defensive front has a B gap defender that is on the LOS.  This is a reduced side and called RED.  IZ is not recommended to the Red side by some.  But OZ is. 
Backside everyone executes take-over blocks.

62 – We have an opponent that runs it like this.

……………….….40….………..…..40…………………………………
..c…….…9…….4…..2i….…2i…..4……...9…………..c………
…X……………....t….g….C….G….T….Y………………………….
………………..H....………Q……………………………….Z………
…………………………..….R………………………………………….

So playside:
C blocks  right 2i.  This is an A gap defender.  The Center will drive the DT trying to get to his playside number
G and T combo 4 to the 40 lb.  This 4 tech will slant to B or C.  G and T have him covered.
Y has 9
Backside everyone executes take-over blocks.

***Old rule (inside shade = Covered) would have the C and G combo 2i to the 40 and LEAVES THE OT TO DEAL WITH A SLANTING 4 TECH.  This is a perfect example of why I want to zone to begin with. 
Honestly, I don’t know if this is a red or a white.  I would run OZ for a few times to set up IZ . 

Got to get to work.  What say you?

[mahonz]

Matt

I think the one thing that must be confirmed first is the horizontal splits.

If you are 6 inches or less….everyone is covered and uncovered pretty much.  Cant really decipher plus tight splits do not lend themselves to zone especially if you slide step when uncovered. You can bucket step with tight splits but I found that keeping the OL’s shoulders square is what I want. Bucket stepping does not do this but the physics of this method makes sense for the co-op.
 
We use progressive horizontal splits because we cant seem to protect the Centers snap hand A gap all that well.

For us covered is DL helmet within the frame ( armpits)  of that lineman. Helmet outside the frame then uncovered. But your horizontal splits must be wide enough to first get a clean read.

We will go 12 – 18 – 24 for starters if we have a TE. This would be for the middle of the road age group. Smaller for the younger kids , bigger for the older kids. Depends on the OG’s. Amazing how big a deal 6 inches is sometimes. Plus the wider you go the harder it is to stay legal since maximum vertical splits are key as well….and who has linemen all the same height.

For me....any inside shade is a gap shooter. So for a 4i we teach the OT to be prepared to chip that 4i and help his buddy on the way to the second level.   

[ZACH]

So can we agree covered is from the linemans nose to the playside neighbors nose?

[durfee4]

So can we agree covered is from the linemans nose to the playside neighbors nose?

From what I studied,yes!

[Michael]

I don't run zone, but a pro guy who does told me "Any of him over any of you" means covered.  Of course, splits greatly affect that system.

[durfee4]

I don't run zone, but a pro guy who does told me "Any of him over any of you" means covered.  Of course, splits greatly affect that system.

I think 2ft splits will do us good,I like the running lane better for our backs.

[ZACH]

I think 2ft splits will do us good,I like the running lane better for our backs.

Gotta have athletic enough lineman to cover 2 ft

[durfee4]

Gotta have athletic enough lineman to cover 2 ft

If not what?

[coachmsl]

So can we agree covered is from the linemans nose to the playside neighbors nose?

Zach,

Some very successful coaches consider inside shades as covered.  Right now, I dont really know which way i like better.  Going back and forth. 



Matt

[durfee4]

Coaches,for what it,s worth,I,am going with zone concepts this season.I. Feel they are easier to teach then what I,am a custom too.Any good advise is appreshiated.I will keep doing my homework.1 important question,should I flip my O-L?

[coachmsl]

Coaches,for what it,s worth,I,am going with zone concepts this season.I. Feel they are easier to teach then what I,am a custom too.Any good advise is appreshiated.I will keep doing my homework.1 important question,should I flip my O-L?

I didnt find Zone easier to teach. Well, lets say, The boys didnt execute Zone nearly as well as I would have liked them to.   Block down, kickout was easier to teach.
 
I think there might be somewhat of a learning curve to teaching zone just like teaching any other scheme out there.


What advantage do you gain by flipping your oline.  Honest question.  If it makes sense for your team, by all means, flip.  I would like to hear why.

[mahonz]

Coaches,for what it,s worth,I,am going with zone concepts this season.I. Feel they are easier to teach then what I,am a custom too.Any good advise is appreshiated.I will keep doing my homework.1 important question,should I flip my O-L?

D

What happened to the DW?

[ZACH]

Zach,

Some very successful coaches consider inside shades as covered.  Right now, I dont really know which way i like better.  Going back and forth. 



Matt

I like the number system a lot .... Im worried though that vs shifting defensive fronts my boys. will get confused... nose to nose might just be easier for on field youth installation...im not sure