Any 50 gap defense info out there?

[Vince148]

Where do you think reed got his idea??  How else would you have explained it? GAM is 10-1 buddy.

Ok so vince doesnt strangle me...

You have gapped players , dbs n lb in man, with adjustments

Haha better vince?
http://www.johntreed.com/myths.html whole lot of 10-1 referance

If you have ever talked to coach ford he uses the GAM alignment in  short yardage depending on game plan.

I know where Reed got the idea. But, as you know, they function entirely different which is what makes them two different defenses.

In GAM, the gappers are bear crawlers. In 10-1, they attack the shins of the player to their outside, then penetrate. In GAM, the DEs box and in 10-1, they attack. I'm not sure of the GAM's idea of bump and run, but the 10-1 is press man coverage.

So while their alignment may be similar, they are entirely different philosophies. It's the same when someone tries to compare the 46 with the 10-1 special. They're similar in alignment, but they function completely different. That's all I was trying to point out. So no need for anyone to strangle anybody here.

[durfee4]

We run a gap pressure 5-3,where all 10 gaps are covered,and with a couple calls we can stunt and get the same result as our base .Still have a cover 1,2,and 3 built in,Now here is an article Vince could of been refering to.http://www.reporternews.com/news/2009/aug/24/deleon10-1/

[CoachShad]

I know where Reed got the idea. But, as you know, they function entirely different which is what makes them two different defenses.

In GAM, the gappers are bear crawlers. In 10-1, they attack the shins of the player to their outside, then penetrate. In GAM, the DEs box and in 10-1, they attack. I'm not sure of the GAM's idea of bump and run, but the 10-1 is press man coverage.

So while their alignment may be similar, they are entirely different philosophies. It's the same when someone tries to compare the 46 with the 10-1 special. They're similar in alignment, but they function completely different. That's all I was trying to point out. So no need for anyone to strangle anybody here.

Dont think we are trying to strangle anyone (Grabs Rope, Finds Tree) 

 

[jcarbon2]

The GAM and the G.A. Moore pressure defense (aka the "ten" or "10-1even pressure defense" ) come from the gap-8. I have had the pleasure of watching the tape G.A. Moore put out way back when VHS was big. LOL. Also spoke to him a few times over the phone. Nice guy and real Texas football legend in every way. I know a few coaches that run the system. Its almost cultish in the sense there are no playbooks. You learn it from somebody at Celina or from somebody that got it from Celina.  Best bet is to visit G.A. or Butch Ford. G.A. is at Aubrey HS these days.

Anyways, the 10-1 Reed describes (GAM) is mostly only similar in name or the fact they are spinoffs of the gap-8.  The 10-1 is base platform is an old "26" defense (4-3 for the young coaches). It is a pressure package that they jump in and out of but mostly stay in what they call special. Has helped Celina win more state championships than any other school in the state.

The thing G.A. told me about the defense was that they knew what the weakness was  in the scheme and they spent as much time working on defending that weakness in practice. So if you know that you will take 90% of your opponents plays away by alignment/technique you just work on defending that other 10% all week. Great use of time and practice.

Its a great scheme and one that does need you to be all in 100%. If your going to bastardize it don't expect similar results.

John

[Vince148]

The GAM and the G.A. Moore pressure defense (aka the "ten" or "10-1even pressure defense" ) come from the gap-8. I have had the pleasure of watching the tape G.A. Moore put out way back when VHS was big. LOL. Also spoke to him a few times over the phone. Nice guy and real Texas football legend in every way. I know a few coaches that run the system. Its almost cultish in the sense there are no playbooks. You learn it from somebody at Celina or from somebody that got it from Celina.  Best bet is to visit G.A. or Butch Ford. G.A. is at Aubrey HS these days.

Anyways, the 10-1 Reed describes (GAM) is mostly only similar in name or the fact they are spinoffs of the gap-8.  The 10-1 is base platform is an old "26" defense (4-3 for the young coaches). It is a pressure package that they jump in and out of but mostly stay in what they call special. Has helped Celina win more state championships than any other school in the state.

The thing G.A. told me about the defense was that they knew what the weakness was  in the scheme and they spent as much time working on defending that weakness in practice. So if you know that you will take 90% of your opponents plays away by alignment/technique you just work on defending that other 10% all week. Great use of time and practice.

Its a great scheme and one that does need you to be all in 100%. If your going to bastardize it don't expect similar results.

John

Thanks for the info, coach. And therein lies the problem. You are correct that there are very limited resources on the defense. Huey's site has an extensive ongoing thread about the 10-1 and I saw where you had one at the Delta site. There are a few people on Huey's that seem to have pretty good knowledge of the defense and you try to pick up bits and pieces as you can. I'd like to go all in this coming season, but again, there's only limited info to get you started and there are only just a few youtube videos of Celina, and those are mostly all 10-1 special with some 26 sprinkled in. I've not found one video showing either Celina, or anyone else for that matter, in a straight 10-1. So I always appreciate it when someone else can add another small piece to the 10-1 puzzle.

[durfee4]

Celinas,10-1 defense.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4081631171919841410#

[defensewins]

Its funny more odd fron stuff i read or listen to the more even fron concepts are applied and vice. versa haha

true story.  we played against a team that swore up and down they were a 3-4 (50 front/whatever) team and played the whole day in an under front. 

[jcarbon2]

true story.  we played against a team that swore up and down they were a 3-4 (50 front/whatever) team and played the whole day in an under front.

50 shade 

I think coaches need to understand that you can be any defensive platform (base) you want to call your defense be it 4-3, 6-1, 4-4, 6-2, 5-2, 3-5-3, 5-2, 3-4, 10-1........etc

I am a 50 front platform but I can give you a 4-3 look as well as any of the above mentioned looks. It is just adjustments.

[CoachShad]

50 shade 

I think coaches need to understand that you can be any defensive platform (base) you want to call your defense be it 4-3, 6-1, 4-4, 6-2, 5-2, 3-5-3, 5-2, 3-4, 10-1........etc

I am a 50 front platform but I can give you a 4-3 look as well as any of the above mentioned looks. It is just adjustments.

BINGO!!   My only caution was to make sure that your kids understood the BASE very well before adding more ingredients.

[ZACH]

Celinas,10-1 defense.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4081631171919841410#

Thats great footage if the "26" , in a previous 10-1 thread i had posted some 10-1 film highlights of there best lb or atleast best at that time

Butch Ford sent me a season, and so did superpower at hueys truly valuable