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Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« on: January 25, 2012, 11:22:42 AM »
In using Coach Cisar's "God" blocking rules do any of you guys have a problem with the backside DE running down the play consistantly?

I know the adjustment of sending your BB to flatten him but I don't want to do this sevearl times a game.  The blocking rules ask your LE to step inside, do you guys have him chip the guy on his outside shoulder?

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 11:28:20 AM »
1. Chaser drills during practice to ensure your 1 back is hitting the hole at full speed.
2. Cross call so FB will lay him out.
3. Omaha call to move FB out of the way of the 1 if he is slowing him down.
4. nasty split your weakside end about a yard or so to make the DE have to run a little farther to reach your man

If these downt work, chances are your 1 is really slow.  :(

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 11:30:27 AM »
Or you could use a Double call and run outside of him on a weakside sweep as he will be pinned inside by your BB

These are all in no order ofcourse. Just some thoughts for the situation.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 11:33:13 AM »
In using Coach Cisar's "God" blocking rules do any of you guys have a problem with the backside DE running down the play consistantly?

I know the adjustment of sending your BB to flatten him but I don't want to do this sevearl times a game.  The blocking rules ask your LE to step inside, do you guys have him chip the guy on his outside shoulder?

Thanks,
Tut


We have never sent the BB to flatten him
If he is getting into your backfield quickly, he's jumping the snap count- no play him
We have not had to use the cross adjustment since 2004 which sends the FB backside or so- our backs dont dance, they attack the hole at full speed- chaser drills

We used to have about 30% of the teams we play line up their fastest kid on the weak edge- they all stopped doing that after the second year- it never works.

If you watched the Pop Warner National Championship game at Midget this year, you saw a guy running my offense using the split call- splitting the LE right- only 1 player to the left of the center- tiny edge- they never got caught from behind the 3 games I watched them play.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 12:07:44 PM »
split call- splitting the LE right- only 1 player to the left of the center- tiny edge- they never got caught from behind the 3 games I watched them play.


Great adjustment, we did this all year, too.  Noone ever even came close to catching us from the backside.

If they tried we also had good success with 43 reverse in which case the BB did cream him most of the time.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 02:14:54 PM »
We have not had to use the cross adjustment since 2004 which sends the FB backside or so

But when you did run that adjustment, did you see other benefits in terms of freezing LBs & safeties?  Did you include a play that had the FB carry thru the 1, 3, or 5 hole to sell the cross?

Was the loss of the FB's lead very limiting?  We've got a discussion going of people's attempts to use the buck sweep series in wing T with kids, where they say they needed someone on the CB, and shooting the FB up the middle loses the possibility of his blocking on the CB.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 02:20:20 PM »
It could also be your 1-2 backs are too deep. make sure they are 2- 2.5 yards deep.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 02:22:15 PM »
We didnt then- we do now
Teams rarely spy the FB- they spy the BB and RG- so no- not any additional benefits Im aware of- but we didnt film a lot of games back then
We didnt want to leave the CB unblocked- that's why we came up with the chaser drills or just run no/play- they are jumping the snap count, that has seemed to solve the problem- or maybe it was just 1 year that I had a super slow QB- not sure.

Last resort like Coach says, nasty split the LE out- have never had to resort to that and trust me, we used to see this tactic ALL THE TIME- not anymore- with the exception of when we play out of State teams who dont know us well- not from the league teams that have tried it.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 02:47:45 PM »
If you watched the Pop Warner National Championship game at Midget this year, you saw a guy running my offense using the split call- splitting the LE right- only 1 player to the left of the center- tiny edge- they never got caught from behind the 3 games I watched them play.


Never heard of doing this, and it seems intriguing.  I am curious if you ever have tried or considered it? 

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 02:50:02 PM »
Never heard of doing this, and it seems intriguing.  I am curious if you ever have tried or considered it?


I believe Coach Dave has used it. first play of the game, went for a td if i recall from his 303 vid.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 02:54:32 PM »
Never heard of doing this, and it seems intriguing.  I am curious if you ever have tried or considered it?


Of course- it's in my book  ;)
Belebunch knows his stuff!

Havent used it often - rarely more than 1-2 plays a game- but they used it 6-8 times a game.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 03:24:54 PM »
Of course- it's in my book  ;)
Belebuch knows his stuff!
Havent used it often - rarely more than 1-2 plays a game- but they used it 6-8 times a game.


Had Tuesday off, i think i saw the vid 3 times that first day while i watched my youngest son.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 03:37:38 PM »
Thanks coaches.  The proof is in the pudding.  If you guys say that you don't have a problem then I believe it.  On my sons team last year (9 year olds) I convinced the coach to put in three power series plays "for goaline situtations" ;) because the offense wasn't doing so red hot.  He ended up running our "goaline formation" quite a bit.  The only problem I saw with it was that our back was getting caught from the backside.  Obviously it means either he was to slow, or the backside wasn't doing anything at all.

Thanks coaches.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 03:39:36 PM »
The runner HAS to hit the hole full speed even if it isnt there. No dancing around and reading ect. Either He goes all out or find someone who will.

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Re: Single Wing Power Series Power Play
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 03:46:59 PM »
Thanks coaches.  The proof is in the pudding.  If you guys say that you don't have a problem then I believe it.  On my sons team last year (9 year olds) I convinced the coach to put in three power series plays "for goaline situtations" ;) because the offense wasn't doing so red hot.  He ended up running our "goaline formation" quite a bit.  The only problem I saw with it was that our back was getting caught from the backside.  Obviously it means either he was to slow, or the backside wasn't doing anything at all.

Thanks coaches.

CHASER DRILLS- they work-so does NO PLAY- for kids jumping the snap count-if they are catching you from behind, they are jumping the snap count- once they get called for it, they dont jump

Like I said 16 seasons maybe 30% of the teams tried that against us the first 3 years- it didnt work-they stopped trying- now only the teams that dont know it doesnt work- out state teams try it- it doesnt work for them either  ;)

EMLOS on backside isnt blocked- no need to. Of course any other backside player is blocked like anything else-

If the Pop Warner National Champions at Midget can run it with just 1 player to the left of center instead of 2 (against well coached, well scouted, athletic teams), you should probably be able to run it with 2.
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