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Offline kfriendii

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7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« on: January 30, 2012, 10:29:07 AM »
Hey folks.  I invested in the Dave Cisar system but I'm running in a league with restricted rules on defense, so I don't think I can run his wide-tackle 6 how he teaches it.  Here are the rules I have to worry about:
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There will be no blitzing, or rushing of punts, field goals or point after touchdown (whiling attempting a kick) in Mitey-mite play.
a. Teams on defense will have a minimum of 5 linemen or a maximum of 6 linemen. Defense must also have 2 safeties.
b. Defensive ends may be either standing up or in a down position (3 or 4 pt stance). All other defensive lineman must be in the down position.
c. Linebackers/Cornerbacks will line up at least 3 yards behind the defensive lineman. (Nearest point of the closet defensive lineman)
d. Safeties will line up at least 3 yards behind the linebackers/Cornerbacks. (Nearest point of the closet linebacker/Cornerback)
e. Linebackers and defensive backs may not move forward until the ball is snapped.
The 3-yard rule will not be in affect inside the defensive team’s 10-yard line. The 3 yards will be reduced to 1 yard.


Is anyone else operating under these rules...or can you offer some adjustments that will work for me?

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KRF
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 10:42:48 AM »
WTF is up with 2 safeties?!?!?  That's just stupid.  Never seen that before.

I think I'd play Jack's 63 and call the inverted CB's my safeties.

It also depends on what they mean by "blitzing".  Rule e leads me to think that once the ball is snapped you can let loose your LB's.  If that's the case, then I'd also consider playing JJ's 33 stack again calling the CB's my safeties, and playing tap and go but from 3 yards deep.  If they split guys out to where your CB's really can't be called S's, then I'd just go GRIM and drop the MS deep with the R, and there you go.  But if they do define blitzing to where you cannot just rush the stacks on the snap, then I'd just go with Jack's D.

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 10:52:33 AM »
Sounds identicle to our league 7-9 ,s rules.Pretty much the only  thing the white hats catch is the blitzing and thats not all the time.I,am not real fimilar with Daves Wt6 ,only that it,s effective.Question, does your refs,also coach HS,and MS? if so like our refs they really stick to the state hs assc,rules, and they pretty much ignor our by-laws unless you have one of those coaches that start whinning when things aren,t going how they hoped and start dictating the by-laws to the ref,s..Hope this helps.
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 10:56:41 AM »
I don't know if the refs handle high school play in the area or not. I'm planning on meeting with another coach probably in March to put together a game plan for the defense but I just wanted to get everyone elses' input right now so I can get some ideas on what has worked and what doesn't.

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 11:12:58 AM »
 Sounds like Clarks Killer Bee Defense is perfect for you

2 high safeties
6 man line
Most players kill the bee or backpedal on the snap

Just my .02

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 11:14:52 AM »
The 4-4 I used at that age level would have come close to being legal.  I played it like a 6-2 and never blitzed my inside LBs.  And they were probably 2.5 yards or so off the ball.  When the CBs faced a split receiver, they were 5 yards off the LOS.  And my safety was like 15 yards off the LOS.  I would have had to replace an inside LB with safety, but I maybe would have just played one of the inside LBs three yards deeper, either side-by-side with the other one, or both stacked in the middle, I guess.
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 11:16:05 AM »
Not having blitzing takes a lot of the fun out of coaching O-Line, I imagine.
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 11:55:44 AM »
Sounds like Clarks Killer Bee Defense is perfect for you

2 high safeties
6 man line
Most players kill the bee or backpedal on the snap

Just my .02


Is it something that 7-9 year olds could absorb pretty easily?  If so, I'll look at investing in it.
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 12:02:14 PM »
Youll have to aborb it first lol, seriously it is a headload at first but i believe you could do it at that age group. The zone can be tough but then again, how complex are the passing games at that age group. It stuffs the inside and outside runs, theres most of your worries right there. I recommend it, im sure Clark or another KBer will chime in shortly.

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 12:31:46 PM »
I think I'd play Jack's 63 and call the inverted CB's my safeties.



Ditto or a 6-2 with an inverted cover 2 coverage.
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 01:15:25 PM »
Killer bee at 7-9 yea that might be tough...real tough

Jacks 6-3 is probably your best bet
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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 01:36:51 PM »
just purchased the Gregory 63...Thanks for the help gentlemen..

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 02:09:29 PM »
You could just go into Monster and with the CBs at about 8 yards- you can just call them Safetys- they are 3 yards deeper than the LBs. That would work

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 03:15:23 PM »
Coach Dave Cisar,

Thanks for the input. I will keep that in mind as well...our D-team ran your wide tackle last year and their coaches said that I would need to make some adjustments to run it on our E-level.  I am looking forward to implementing your single-wing system this year...studying all of the tapes and I'm made very good friends with the book.

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Re: 7-9 year olds. League rules on defense
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 06:54:36 AM »
Hey folks.  I invested in the Dave Cisar system but I'm running in a league with restricted rules on defense, so I don't think I can run his wide-tackle 6 how he teaches it.  Here are the rules I have to worry about:
Is anyone else operating under these rules...or can you offer some adjustments that will work for me?

Respectfully,

KRF

Coach, is your league Pop Warner? I ask because you say Mitey Mite 7-9. But those rules are not quite the same as Pop Warner Mitey Mite National rules.  I would definitely take advantage of allowing a Nose Guard if that is allowed. Put a Good player there and cause lots of problems. At that level if the Center is not good the nose can win some games for you on his own. Unless of course the other team also runs Daves SW :(
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